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Author:	MrMatt [ Fri Oct 28, 2011 9:20 pm ]
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Hello everyone, What time is it...? Mmmh... Wait... Wait.... Wait... Time for another lame Field report! Yippy!!!! Anyways... I went out yesturday night at a nightclub with a friend of mine. The guy is a total AFC and he just got dumped by his girlfriend. I've been trying to help him twice but the guy is a chode and he just won't approach anyone... However, I decided to give him another chance! I basically wasted 1 hour and an half trying to get him to approach girls... He managed to approach 4 groups. All approaches we're lame as fuck and he ejected right away. I guess he still made progress... Maybe I am a bad coach? I don't know... But one thing is sure---] I'm impatient as fuck and he thought I was going too hard on him! Highlights of him approaching: Come up to 2 girls sitting at the bar (By behind... Even thought If I told him not to do that), touch her shoulder and say: Hi... The girl freaks out and he leave. While he's leaving, I have a big smile on my face since I think the situation is funny and those 2 girls realize I was forcing him to do this! So I came up to them, talked a bit and introduced my friend to them CORRECTLY (Again... Bad coaching, I was doing all the work for him). He couldn't understand how I was opening many hot girls not even wanting to do so! Just by being there and staying open (While waiting for him to open girls...). After a while, we decide to get on the dancefloor since he told me he would open many girls on it! Turn out he did not approach anyone, he wasn't even dancing... So I just said fuck off and left him. So now, I'm on the dancefloor. All alone. What should I do? Ohh, I see two girls dancing right there... Come up to them. Stop dancing, stare at one girl, cross my arm. AND WAIT. WAIT. WAIT. They knew I was there but they we're scared and we're ignoring me. I could feel the awkward in the air... It was intense! However, I didn't relieve the tension...... After maybe 5 mins, I finally open them. I said to myself Fuck off, I'm bored now.. I turn and start dancing. Still, I stay near them. After 30 sec, one of these girls look and me. Here's basically the conversation: Her: What did you say? Me: What what? Her: You said something... Me: Oh, I said I was bored... Her: Bored of what? Me: Well, I find it funny how girls do their best to ignore every creep guys on the dancefloor just if they doesn't even exist! Her: Ahaha we knew you we're there! I even told my friend I was scared and you we're weird! The rest of it is just formalities... Danced with her, k-closed, n-closed and she won't stop texting me. Creeper game and lame coaching. Here it is! N.B: In your face, skills360 Talking on the dancefloor still works!

Author:	skills360 [ Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:28 pm ]
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Good job! but you barely talk, no talking or barely talking...

Author:	Cornishman [ Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:13 pm ]
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dont speak so badly about your friend. . . He's your friend.

Author:	Lionel [ Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:56 pm ]
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The problem is not your friend, but you. You have no clue what is your friend's problem. You are a lousy coach. You can't force someone to just open random sets if his nervousness is killing him. Your friend doesn't need a coach that knows how to get women. He needs a coach that first of all understand what is his problem and comes up with a plan to help him out with it. Maybe not even a PUA but a real psychiater. If you would know a little bit about psychology and fears, you would know that you totally messed up. You did the exact opposite of what you were supposed to do. I am almost sure that you made your friend's problem even worse. He doesn't need a coach that pushes him like hell and disrespects him for not approaching. You should make him do little baby steps and try to get him out of his comfort zone step by step. And you should support him no matter what. Instead of making fun of him for approaching 4 groups, you should have high fived him and told him that he did great. I don't know if your ego is going to allow you to do that. And you have a very huge ego because this is not a field report but more a brag report.

Author:	GetFamiliar [ Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:23 pm ]
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I agree with Lionel...forcing your friend to approach instead of encouraging him to will only lead to him having limited success. You are pushing him out of an alpha mind frame by ORDERING him to do it. If you're going to be a good wing or coach then you need to have deep discussions with whoever you're going to be sarging with BEFORE you go out. If you believe that you are not fit to help someone psychologically then you should direct him/her to a self-help program or a psychiatrist. LEAVING YOUR WINGMAN/STUDENT IS NOT A COOL MOVE. THAT GUY WAS NOT BEING A JERK TO YOU...it seems that he was just unprepared... Seriously,man,don't look down on someone for being an "AFC"...This is a COMMUNITY, and we are here to help each other. If you cannot even take the time to properly help your friend then YOU need to work on YOUR inner game...

Author:	MrMatt [ Mon Oct 31, 2011 5:04 pm ]
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Thank you guys for the reply. First of all, no need to blame anyone. I even said It was bad coach (Just read the title). That being said, let me tell you a bit more about the situation. First of all, I never ever wanted to be a coach! I don't consider myself as a PUA at all. I'm just a guy who gets girls quite often. He asked me so many time that I needed to say yes. It was not the first night that I was trying to help him. We went out about 4 times and he told me he was going to do a tons of approach every night. He did not do 1 approach for any of those nights. He basically just waited for me to do all the job and then he danced with a friend. He even tried to pull the robbery on me twice... By the way, I sent him informations (60 years of challenge) about approaching so he knew what the deal was... Anyways, Ive spoke with some PUA on the chat and they all agreed with me. If the guy is not ready to approach girls of his own, he should not look for a coach. It's not my job to fix his issues. Obviously, he is not ready to improve his game if he is not ready to approach anyone. Peace out.

Author:	Lionel [ Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:06 pm ]
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Well, you are totally right. You don't have to help him. But do you have to look down at him like you do ? You definitely didn't help him, but probably lowered his self esteem even further. Even though, he did some bad things to you like trying to steal a girl away, that doesn't mean he deserves to sink deeper into the mud. He was bad ? OK, so don't help him and why not even tell him that you don't feel like helping him because he tried to steal your girl away ? Indeed, being a coach is not for everyone. I didn't really appreciate the way you treated your friend. But I did enjoy how a girl went from calling you a weirdo to kissing you and exchange phone numbers. Keep on the gaming ... stop the coaching.

Author:	skills360 [ Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:36 pm ]
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Quote: Well, you are totally right. You don't have to help him. But do you have to look down at him like you do ? You definitely didn't help him, but probably lowered his self esteem even further. Even though, he did some bad things to you like trying to steal a girl away, that doesn't mean he deserves to sink deeper into the mud. He was bad ? OK, so don't help him and why not even tell him that you don't feel like helping him because he tried to steal your girl away ? Indeed, being a coach is not for everyone. I didn't really appreciate the way you treated your friend. But I did enjoy how a girl went from calling you a weirdo to kissing you and exchange phone numbers. Keep on the gaming ... stop the coaching. I think lionel is the friend in the story...lol

Author:	MrMatt [ Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:37 pm ]
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Quote: Well, you are totally right. You don't have to help him. But do you have to look down at him like you do ? You definitely didn't help him, but probably lowered his self esteem even further. Even though, he did some bad things to you like trying to steal a girl away, that doesn't mean he deserves to sink deeper into the mud. He was bad ? OK, so don't help him and why not even tell him that you don't feel like helping him because he tried to steal your girl away ? Indeed, being a coach is not for everyone. I didn't really appreciate the way you treated your friend. But I did enjoy how a girl went from calling you a weirdo to kissing you and exchange phone numbers. Keep on the gaming ... stop the coaching. Ahaha thank you! Indeed I don't like coaching and the only reason I did it is because he was literally begging me! However, saturday night I saw him at a party and he told me he finally understood the basic of gaming! I didn't really believe him since he told me the same thing many time! Still, he ended up talking to many girls, dancing with some of them and even kissed 2 of them! Yes, the girls we're ugly and most we're running away from him since his game was awful, but I was still glad for him since I thought he was making progress..

Author:	DJ_Z [ Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:54 pm ]
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Wow...you guys suck. You dont' high five someone for doing shit wrong. If he approached women in a poor way, he should not be commended for it, he should be told what he did wrong so that he can correct it. And it is very annoying to go out with a guy who just doesn't want to change. Was this the best way to help? I dunno, but it is pretty good. If you tell a guy it's wrong to walk up to a woman from behind and try to get her attention, and he does it, he doesn't deserve positive reinforcement! postive reactions are for when they do something right!

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