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Author:  swisha [ Sat Jul 28, 2007 5:23 pm ]
Post subject:  MAJOR inner game issue ! ! ! SP

Weird sticking point.

I kinda feel guilty about wanting to pleasure women sexually...

that's to say I 'de-esculate' whenever im in a situation where I can kiss close or more. in fact im even having a problem with initiating kino too now that I understand what it does, and where it can lead...

Not entirely sure how to handle this one...
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Author:  Chase [ Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:06 pm ]
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look at yourself in the mirror and slap yourself silly and tell yourself that you are a man....Maybe not

I understand what you are saying, I think it is similar to when talking to a girl and you raise her buying temperature and she leaves quickly...like most asian girls...I will never understand them.

Unless of course you have a strong case of AA and you are simply hiding behind your "guilt"

Or

you have a self-defeating attitude, where you dont want to achieve success.

Author:  swisha [ Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:18 pm ]
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lol no, I think you misunderstood!

I got no problem opening and shit, heck i opened 5 sets today, AA is completely different...

it was like this one girl I remember HB7, I know she wanted me to kiss her, but I simply didnt go for it, or even bother asking, if Ida got rejected I wouldnt have cared, its the fact I didn't ask lol....

today i opened this girl and her bf came... I could easily have AMOGed him, but I actually felt bad for wanting to split them up, despite the guy being a total loser...

lol, can you see now why the issue is quite bizarre

Author:  smokedoutabear [ Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:40 pm ]
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You feel guilty about pleasuring a woman? umm thats not a problem a straight guy should have. But I can understand if you want to save pleasuring women sexually for a committed relationship if you are that type.

Other than that the guilt could just be another mental block to stop your progress.

Next time actually kiss the girl then let us know if you still feel guilty afterwards.

If you kiss and it feels good and no guilt you know its just a mental block.

If you kiss and feel guilty still it might be something deeper like conflicting morals or something but dont let your emotions block you dude..

Author:  Strive [ Sat Jul 28, 2007 8:26 pm ]
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Maybe it's a self value problem. Do you see yourself as worthy of a girls time and affection?

Author:  PUA Kenny [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:41 am ]
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:( I think you're scared of In-field success. I once had probs with kino escalation.

Author:  Devious [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:04 pm ]
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When I was still new to the game, I felt like I was getting away with something whenever I k-closed or escalated. It was almost like I was doing something illegal, and I thought I would get called out on it. The thing to remember is that girls (generally speaking) want to be approached, want to flirt, and want you to escalate.

Author:  swisha [ Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:11 pm ]
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1 year on I came across this old post by total chance, but I gotta say thanks for all your advice.

Having grown so much more confident in myself I realised that this was deeper that I thought.

this 'guilt' grew from 2 issues.

1. that my parents had socially conditioned me not to pursue sex from an early age - when I was four I told my teacher 'my mommy says I'm not allowed to have a girlfriend'.

2. My first sexual experience ever had scarred me quite badly - I am not that comfortable to go into it yet - and because of it I had come to see my sexual drive as something I had to control and tame, which is why I would feel guilty, and as a result I saw sex as something 'evil' actually.

So how to overcome this?

2 ways, one by obviously talking about, understanding that this WAS an issue and that it was something that affected my behaviour. Two, by reprogramming myself socially. This happens by reading and internalising sex advice from guru's like Dan Rose (Author of the Sex Revolution Handbook) and replacing bad ideas like 'Sex is wrong' with new positive ideas like 'Sex is something women crave from me'. It is slow, but I feel its working!!! Eventually sex will become something natural do I just DO without thinking...

To infinity and beyond

Author:  Infamous110 [ Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:24 pm ]
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In my experience, sex (the whole esculation ladder, really) before a relationship is designed less for pleasuring a woman and more for calibrating the compatibility between the two of you.

You view it as the most serious thing in the world (incidently, this will effect your performance with it - as you can see with the kino problem mentioned ect) and as a result you find it difficult to do.

Also noteworthy is the fact that you have repressed the "caring" side of things. If you get rejected - you WILL care, be honest with yourself. You don't want to get rejected, and you want to avoid it. The difference between winners and losers/success and failure? Winners learn, losers sulk.

Author:  -Firefly- [ Fri Aug 01, 2008 6:26 pm ]
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how old are you ? maybe you want a serious relation ship and don't wanna mess thing up ?

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