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| Author: | Patrick_Bateman [ Fri Feb 18, 2011 5:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | 60 years of challenge -- seems ridiculous |
I'm reading this , and I'm wondering, has anybody really put any of this into effect? I'd like to think I'm a pretty direct guy, but this stuff just seems almost ridiculous to me. Maybe its because I'm in college and every girl here thinks everything is creepy, but has anybody really followed this book and if so, how did it turn out? |
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| Author: | Warped Mindless [ Fri Feb 18, 2011 5:53 am ] |
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Give it a try and see just how effective it really is. Many people here use his method to great success and many more use many elements from his method, also to great success. |
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| Author: | Patrick_Bateman [ Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:10 am ] |
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Quote: Give it a try and see just how effective it really is.
To be honest I'm kinda scared, not of rejection, but just to be deemed in my college as the sleezy creep.
Many people here use his method to great success and many more use many elements from his method, also to great success. |
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| Author: | Chief [ Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:11 am ] |
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thread moved to Reviews board |
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| Author: | Coldman [ Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:48 am ] |
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Quote: Quote: Give it a try and see just how effective it really is.
To be honest I'm kinda scared, not of rejection, but just to be deemed in my college as the sleezy creep.Many people here use his method to great success and many more use many elements from his method, also to great success. |
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| Author: | detox75 [ Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:01 pm ] |
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The other posters are correct, you don't want to use this in a closed, finite environment, its more gambit stuff then solid game, but it has its place in the field, especially with young woman in crowded or loud environments |
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| Author: | Underworlder [ Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:55 pm ] |
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Quote: The other posters are correct, you don't want to use this in a closed, finite environment, its more gambit stuff then solid game, but it has its place in the field, especially with young woman in crowded or loud environments
What does this mean?
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| Author: | JamesO [ Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:58 am ] |
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I rank 60 as one of the top seduction coaches out there. His product The Complete Game System improved my closing rate with women. My results almost doubled within a few months of using his system(not 7 days). He really comes from a unique angle that almost all other pua methods do not. Some of his techniques are so simple yet so effective. If you have your fundamentals down then using his method should take you to the next level. However, 60 misses out on a couple of very important aspects to improving your success with women. He doesn't admit that improving your looks and style can improve your success drastically. From experience, wearing the right clothes and having a nice body is just as if not more important then being seductive and sexual. 60's method is based mainly on being seductive, direct, and escalating the vibe. Pickup is a numbers game, but your looks and style will play a drastic role on the numbers game you have to play and the quality of women you get. Since 60's method is very good, it is pretty much the method i use mixed with some things i've learned from others and my experience.(of course i adjust depending on the girl and situation) 60's method began to work much better for me once i began to learn about style. I have experimented with different styles of dress. Some nights i dress sharp and wear very nice clothes, while other nights i wear a tshirt and sneakers. I can assure you that when i dress very plain i find myself playing a much higher numbers game and often get rude responses from girls I open who don't give me a chance to escalate. However, when i dress well girls open MUCH easier, and I also get the occasional girl that opens me. On more low key nights where there are only a few attractive available women you want to look your best since you may only have 2 or 3 shots that night. You should also take into account that having to open lots of women is time consuming which takes away from time that could be spent on other goals in your life. Dress well, get in shape, and this will make your game more efficient! Also having to play such a high numbers game my drain on you over the years regardless of your positive attitude. I'm really not sure why 60 doesn't tell guys to work on their bodies and to have a sexy sense of style. If you look around at the guys in the club with in shape bodies and good style you will notice they give off sex appeal right away. Women can tell just by looking at those guys that they are most likely the no strings attached guys that are great to use for sex. Just by the way they dress they make a "sex offer" the second a woman looks at them. These guys are a step ahead of 60's method of making a "sex offer" through seductive non-verbal communication. Combine goodlooks with 60's method, and your results will probably skyrocket! Absolutely use 60's method and you will get much better results then the shitty results you get now from other pua methods. But make it a lot easier on yourself by spending the time to get in shape and dress well. Don't listen to pua gurus that tell you looks don't mean much. Make yourself look as good as you possibly can. Put it to the test for yourself. What do your eyes and ears really tell you. Who are the guys girls are really wanting to sleep with and always talking about? Stop thinking that everthing some pua guru tells you is the gospel truth. Truly be an independent man who doesn't believe what some pua guru tells him without testing it out first. I'm not trying to diss on 60 since his method works, but i also hate deceitful marketing methods. When i first ran across 60 he seemed very honest on his wbsite. But things have changed a bit. 60 makes the claim- "Go from zero to 3 girls a week using a simple system that automatically makes women attracted to you." This claim is almost as bad as mystery's 5 for 5, or mehow being able to make any girl his girlfriend in 15 minutes or less. Let's use some common sense when we read this statement. First off, is he saying that you will be able to sleep with 3 brandnew girls a week every week for as long as you want. Does he mean 3 dates, or 3 phone numbers a week? Are all of these 3 girls attractive? Maybe he is speaking of having a rotation of fuck buddies, and that is how you get 3 girls a week. That statement is kind of vaque in my opinion. What about all these guys who live in small towns with no city around for hours? In a town i use to live in there wasn't a decent bar or club unless i drove an hour down the interstate. Where i live now i'm lucky to find an available hot girl on sunday night through wednesday night out at the bars that i havn't already hooked up with or tried for. You can burn your town out fast. Of course if you lived in NYC and had a lot of free time you could pull 3 brandnew girls a week. Also, what kind of a numbers game does a guy have to play to get those kind of results? Would a fat guy have to talk to 200 girls a week? 60 is legit, but he seems to have fallen in to the whole pua scam tactics to convince guys to buy his products. |
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| Author: | Warmth [ Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:03 pm ] |
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Tried this in school. Probably the best way to attract girls from the coolest social circles. I'm not really trying to score any of the girls in my school but I have recently befriended some of the hottest girls in my school and therefore gotten more social proof among the guys as well. Al thanks to making myself more sexual with the ladies. To be fair though, the only things I use from 60 is the eye contact thing, handshake and some other shit |
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| Author: | Chicoman69 [ Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:10 am ] |
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I'm sorry. I knew 60 Years of Challenge a bit when he posted on mASF/fastseduction. I was not that impressed with his brag reports. His material is basically a ripoff of Gunwitch, David Deangelo, Mystery/Style, and many other gurus. I have been around this community for a lil while and can't stomach reading 60's stuff. He dumbs it down like he is talking to a 3rd grader... daring you to hold hands with your sweetie. Go ahead and blow your money on his garbage for all I care. I seem to be the only one around here not sucking up to him. |
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| Author: | skills360 [ Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:33 am ] |
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Quote: I'm sorry. I knew 60 Years of Challenge a bit when he posted on mASF/fastseduction. I was not that impressed with his brag reports. His material is basically a ripoff of Gunwitch, David Deangelo, Mystery/Style, and many other gurus. I have been around this community for a lil while and can't stomach reading 60's stuff. He dumbs it down like he is talking to a 3rd grader... daring you to hold hands with your sweetie. Go ahead and blow your money on his garbage for all I care. I seem to be the only one around here not sucking up to him.
Chicoman can you back it up with samples this is my second request(i made you the same request about 6 months ago), cause i read 60yoc and i have been doing naturally variation of his method for years(we are kind of from the same school of thought). i would like you to show me were is similar to David Deangelo and mystery/style... The method works and is proven and is the best material in the community hands down. Does it has it flaws maybe, but so does every method. The problem i see with some dudes following 60yoc and every other method, is that they become clones of methods, instead of calibrate and adapt to different situations and own personal strengths... |
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