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Author:  RVAIS [ Wed Dec 29, 2010 6:58 am ]
Post subject:  Product Systems Reviews

This will be a over all view of systems not really indvidual porducts perse unless the product is a stand alone like a book feel free to add just realize I will save a few spot beneath so i can update. I own alot of products from alot of different systems and I have a good base understanding of the subtle nuances of each system. I may also use the name of the "guru" to attach to the system.



Mystery Method- "Mystery"

Pros
This is a good base system (the one most indviduals start with) that goes through the basic and describes thenm in a easy to follow way.


Cons
A little outdated, If you approach a "set" and say "can I get a female opinion"? they will know you are trying to "pick them up" and your probably a noob at it.



Double Your Dating product line- "David Deangelos"

video seminars
pros
Very scientific and well though thought provoking, good introduction to other systems.

cons
can veer off course, you get bombarded with books and facts and system theory.


Books/audio books
pros
alot more basic than the video seminars and cover alot of details.

cons
though theres alot of details there covered in a very broad way with not a whole lot of emphasis on exacutuion.





Stealth Seduction-"Gambler" (I only own his stealth seduction video series and whatever products came with it.)

pros
teaches that having "high status" can take you far, the stealth moves for me are where the money is in the system, the accidental touch while walking through the club is brillant!

cons
unless you live in a big city like lets say london, being friends with celebrities isnt goning to happen and lets just say the club owner or some rich guy may not be as easy for a AFC trying to become a PUA



Real Social Dynamics (RSD)- "Tyler Durden" "Jeffy" and more

(I dont own the blue print but I do own flawless naturals and the introduction video series)

pros
teaches that high energy and pumping females states can be a very effective way to PU


cons
someone who is so high energy and super positive and really out going can be very off putting and hard to do if you are not naturally that way, can also land you in the friends zone or associates I dont fuck zone.



Speed Seduction (SS)- "Ross Jeffries"
(I own of few of his old books/audiobooks and a few video seminars)

pros
good introduction into NLP and self help/building confidence

cons
I havent found that NLP product seduction or otherwise that allows for that "mind control"/ manipulation effect on people.



The Art of Approaching- "Thundercat"
(he has since put out a few more books aparently but I don't own any of them)


pros
very basic and literally starts you at first step how to interact with people goes into quite a bit of detail theory oriented and introduction to "openers"

cons
it still cost money (seems like it could be given away as almost a good teaser for more in depth products)



Beyond the Digits- "Paul Janka

pros
teaches oober confidence and that your in it for one goal PUSSY! One real golden nugget I got from his system is that if you feel the interaction isnt going you way or her energy isnt right toward you its alright to just walk away fuck saying goodbye mid sentence just walk the fuck away leave her standing there.

cons
unless you are an attractive guy physically a swimmers body classy wardrobe and you live in a big city like New York, the execution may back fire.
of this system may backfire.



Body language

I am making a sub section to make that points that this is one of the key foundations to learn along with social dynamics of courtship.




The body language product pdf.

pros
has pictures and shows in dept the nuances of body language, you can actually get it for free I believe.

cons
I havent been able to load it into my ipod touch without the pictures being blacked out.


Allan Pease's Books

pros
pretty much the gold standard but very basic entry into the field of body language.

cons
if your gonna buy one buy his old book he just reprints the same source material from the 70's.


Emotions Revealed -"Paul Ekman"

pros
gold standard for learning micro expressions, the author is the inspiration for the FOX show Lie to ME.


cons
Books is semi-illustrated but poorly illustrated you'll find your self jumping around from page to page.


Heres is a chart for facial expressions

http://dudelol.com/a-helpful-chart-of-f ... pressions/


and of course our forum can be a great place to learn more on body language.



Of course no product can supplement time in field.

Author:  tbrady10 [ Wed Dec 29, 2010 7:11 am ]
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good post! ive read mystery and styles method and natural art of seduction ...i find myself more for styles game vs richards...anyways which one do u think is the best???

order would be nice?? any more suggestions??

Author:  RVAIS [ Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:27 am ]
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Quote:
good post! ive read mystery and styles method and natural art of seduction ...i find myself more for styles game vs richards...anyways which one do u think is the best???

order would be nice?? any more suggestions??
best is a relative term

i must really suggest "The body language Project" If you dont already own it, do a google search you just maybe able to score it for free, but you should buy it its not to expensive and well worth it.


If youve read mystery method than basic are pretty much covered maybe Double you Dating to reinforce them.

what are your strengths and what are you weakness'?

ps. I forgot to add the anhilation method styles book its pretty good as well everyone that came out of that camp is kind of similare except Tyler.

might also add demonic confidence though I didnt do the excercies real shock and awe shit for getting over social phobias

White tiger tantra from steve P and hypnotica stuff kind of sounds like bs but hey
never really tried it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSMolCwlvJo

Author:  tbrady10 [ Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:19 am ]
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i have good confidence..but i dont think its where it should be with a guy in my situation...if that makes sense! how is demonic confidence???

whats the anihaltion method???

Author:  RVAIS [ Thu Dec 30, 2010 8:47 am ]
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Quote:
i have good confidence..but i dont think its where it should be with a guy in my situation...if that makes sense! how is demonic confidence???

whats the anihaltion method???
Demonic confidence is a program you have to do everyday and is designed to get guys over social phobia.

annihilation method is styles method very similar to mysterys and all of project hollywoods products.

Author:  hypnotica [ Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:08 am ]
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I will send you one for free. Give it a shot.

Author:  LyricalDream [ Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:16 am ]
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Quote:
I will send you one for free. Give it a shot.
If you are giving out some, can I hop on the same train?
Would love to learn.. !

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