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Author:  Chief [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:33 am ]
Post subject:  60 Years of Challenge
I've been barking through the grapevine lately about how I think 60 Years of Challenge's stuff is the best I've seen since I've been in the PUA/Seduction Community since 2003. A lot of newbies ask, "Who is the best guru?" I tell them, "60 Years of Challenge." They then ask me, "Who wrote that?" I tell them, "No, dude, that's his name. Yeah, it's weird. Don't ask me why he named himself that because I have no idea."

Back in February of 2010, I wrote a review on Vin DiCarlo's ebook "The Attraction Code" and how I thought it was the best ebook on pickup I've ever read. I would say 60's "Complete Game System" pretty much tops that. It's a whole new level.

60 actually gives something new to the community instead of rehashing old ideas from Mystery and David Deangelo like everybody else. His method can be compared with Gunwitch Method, but to me it feels like an upgraded and simpler version. There are many aspects to the method, but they are all incredibly easy to apply and the entire thing can be summed up in one phrase: less is more.

Check out this awesome article that he wrote for a taste: 60s-anti-manifesto-must-read-vt72952.html
The Anti-Manifesto will show you just how easy it is for anyone to control sexual tension.

Of course, I applied 60's method for myself. Check out the Lay Report I wrote: lr-i-dont-like-bad-boys-vt64309.html
It was one of the, if not the, easiest lay I've ever gotten using anything I've learned from the community.

60's material is definitely a major milestone in the pickup community. It's one of those "must reads" you can't miss. And, to be honest, you really won't need to read anything else. Except my blog, of course. ;)

Check out 60 Years of Challenge by clicking here: http://chiefpua.com/sixty
Author:  J. Jay [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:34 am ]
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I really liked his anti manifesto article, definately a different way of seeing things. But a real turnoff for me is on his site he says "its impossible to get rejected". Now come on, anyone in their right mind knows this is complete crap, you WILL get rejected occassionaly no matter what the hell you do, and PUA gurus should stop with silly comments like this.

I will consider picking up his program though
Author:  Chief [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:29 pm ]
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Yeah, I know what you mean. However, I think you'll see why he says that once you understand his concept of Microescalation. Here's a free guide he wrote on the topic: free-micro-escalation-guide-from-60-vp339344.html
Author:  abcdef123456 [ Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:31 pm ]
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I've been looking at some of his stuff. I like how it's just so simple. I'm also an introvert, and I think this style suits us a lot better than an extrovert since it is more about listening and having a seductive vibe rather than being high energy and running routines. In fact before I even knew about this guy I have had success before by behaving the way he teaches, I just didn't realise. It's good stuff.
Author:  Creamy [ Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:08 am ]
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Thanks for posting this man, awesome stuff!!
Author:  onato123 [ Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:21 pm ]
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His stuff is brilliant, can't recommend it enough.
Author:  SnakePlissken [ Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:17 pm ]
Post subject:  60 years of challenge - need help!
So after reading Chief's post, I purchased 60 years of challenge's complete system, the 4 pdf's and 2 audios. I read them all, and went out and was shocked by how effective some of the stuff he said is, for example what he says about the most effective place to caress, about seductive eye contact etc.

But I need help!

I took in his concepts, but when I went out and applied them at first it was very powerful but I am confused as to what to do. His writings, at least for a newbie like me, do not really have a clear cut model of progression, that is,

I would go up to a girl, say hi, milk the intro, use seductive eye contact, etc, i even brought her to a chair and sat her on my lap, but I don't know what to do next, he says don't talk that much just look at her etc. Do i make any jokes, use any attraction routines, I am just kind of confused.

If anyone wouldn't mind PMing me a clear model of what to do I would greatly appreciate it! or give me examples of encounters and the steps in the encounter.
Author:  Chief [ Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 60 years of challenge - need help!
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So after reading Chief's post, I purchased 60 years of challenge's complete system, the 4 pdf's and 2 audios. I read them all, and went out and was shocked by how effective some of the stuff he said is, for example what he says about the most effective place to caress, about seductive eye contact etc.

But I need help!

I took in his concepts, but when I went out and applied them at first it was very powerful but I am confused as to what to do. His writings, at least for a newbie like me, do not really have a clear cut model of progression, that is,

I would go up to a girl, say hi, milk the intro, use seductive eye contact, etc, i even brought her to a chair and sat her on my lap, but I don't know what to do next, he says don't talk that much just look at her etc. Do i make any jokes, use any attraction routines, I am just kind of confused.

If anyone wouldn't mind PMing me a clear model of what to do I would greatly appreciate it! or give me examples of encounters and the steps in the encounter.
Physically escalate.

From my understanding of 60's method, you're supposed to go straight into the heavier sexual escalation stuff after you get the IOM and "couple's kino."

From there, common sense tells me to isolate and close.
Author:  SnakePlissken [ Tue Oct 05, 2010 12:50 am ]
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Could you give a detailed account of like a situation you have been in, and a linear progression of steps, Im still having a hard time putting all the pieces together

P.S Sry for being a pain! I was used to magic bullets linear progression model which I liked because it was like very structured, but this stuff seems very interesting
Author:  Underworlder [ Tue Oct 05, 2010 4:04 am ]
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What questions would you recommend asking a woman to keep her talking, Chief?
Author:  Chief [ Sat Oct 09, 2010 2:51 pm ]
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You guys are getting way off-topic here. If you want a more detailed account of what I do, you can read about and discuss it in my Outer Game Guide thread here: chiefs-guide-to-outer-game-vt75887.html

Note that this has nothing to do with this thread. THIS thread is for discussing 60 Years of Challenge and his materials. If anyone has anything to say about his stuff, please post/discuss them here.
Author:  mike.hunt [ Sun Oct 10, 2010 1:42 pm ]
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So, after reading this, I decided to take a look at 60's method. It seems pretty simple so far; I'm about halfway through. Some of his advice is golden but other stuff I'm not so keen on but I guess that's the same with every method you read, you need to mould it to suit your persona.

Chief, I know you've posted that initial lay report, but can I ask what success you've had since then?

By the way, before I was using Vin DiCarlo's Attraction Code, and that was pure GOLD DUST. Probably the best thing I've ever read on pickup. I must admit, 60's is something completely original and fresh, and I look forward to testing these out in the field. Was wondering if many other people have had success using 60's method too?
Author:  Chief [ Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:02 pm ]
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Chief, I know you've posted that initial lay report, but can I ask what success you've had since then?
Actually, the girl from that LR was a good fuck buddy for a while but then I started officially dating someone else exclusively soon after; I have been in this LTR ever since. Sorry for not being able to give you more personal anecdotes using 60.

To get with my current girlfriend, I used the Crash-Your-Car-With-The-Girl-In-The-Passenger-Seat-Going-Double-The-Speed-Limit Method. I don't recommend it as it is ridiculously expensive and life-threatening. Being a "bad boy" comes with a price, to say the least. Wear a fucking seatbelt.

Come to think of it, though, there was another time I roughly used 60's stuff (a little more direct version of it, if I remember correctly) and I took that girl out on a day 2 and we ended up doing some naughty stuff in my bed... but then I saw blood on my fingers and was traumatized for life. I will never know why that girl didn't fucking tell me that she had begun her period. :cry:

OK, I wasn't traumatized but my fingers sure didn't smell too great. I kicked her out of my apartment while making out with her and never saw her again.

I don't know why I never wrote the FR++ on that. Hmm.

I never wrote the LR about my current gf because that seduction just took too damn long.
Author:  mike.hunt [ Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:11 pm ]
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OK, I wasn't traumatized but my fingers sure didn't smell too great.
I laughed hard. Can't say I've ever had that experience and can't say I ever want to! :P

But no worries, just wanted to know if it was a fluke, because they can and do happen. I'm off out tonight anyway so I'll give it a go but tbh I'm quite a social guy (which I've had to train myself to become) so ditching all that and pretending to be introvert is gonna be tough but some of his stuff like the hand caressing and seductive eye contact really is pure gold.

You're a bit of a fan of The Attraction Code too I see? That was my major game before hand, I've read MM but tbh that just pissed me off I don't wanna act like an asshole just because Mystery tells me too, and I think that's what I liked most about Attraction Code, Vin DiCarlo seems like an exceptionally nice PUA and he advocates that all the way through his method.

On a side note though, what do you think I should do about this: -img-src-templates-boudoir-images-iconm ... tml#397103 situation?
Author:  Chief [ Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:21 pm ]
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It's true that 60 reads pretty introvert-friendly, but I really don't think you have to pretend to be an introvert at all to use his shit. Remember that stuff about microavoidance and social momentum? That doesn't sound like introverted stuff to me at all.

Vin DiCarlo's got some really good shit but he still talks about some things that I've come to realize is actually pretty irrelevant in terms of practical application of seduction. I think 60 teaches what really matters while Vin still talks about things you could do without - such as evolutionary psychology topics - in the Attraction Code.

Other than the superfluous stuff he adds to fill more pages, DiCarlo is solid as fuck and his 4EP model for natural game is fucking brilliant. I like 60 better because I think he values simplicity more.
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