PUA Forum :: Mystery vs. Gambler

I have to say, Mystery is better...

I mean when I've Mystery and Gambler work Mystery seems not to rushed and Mystery also seems like he's attarcting the whole room whilst Gambler focuses on one girl at a time!

Gambler a super good PUA! One the best! As good as Mystery... I doubt it...

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lol... why would you want to "attract" a room? are you going to fuck everyone inside there and have a big orgy or what?

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lol... why would you want to "attract" a room? are you going to fuck everyone inside there and have a big orgy or what?

1. "Attracting the room" gives you more social proof therefore increasing your chances of getting the hottest girl in the place.

2. PUA isn't only about getting girls. It's a lifestyle. Wouldn't it be more fun to make new friends and whatnot?

3. Alot of you are misconstrued as to what the Mystery Method actually is. MM doesn't say you are lower value so you must DHV as an absolute truth. It's all a PERCEPTION. If Gambler rolls in like a "movie star" isn't that DHVing anyway? Some of you need to wise up.

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lol... why would you want to "attract" a room? are you going to fuck everyone inside there and have a big orgy or what?

Have you ever tried social proof? I mean, actually went out, in-field, stood in a club with 3+ HOT chicks around you and grabbing you, hugging you, etc.

I have.

Does that improve the odds of getting with a hot girl that's on the other side of the club? uuhh... no. Nobody gives a shit. Nobody notices you in a big club. Social proof is bullshit. (In big clubs anyway, at your local bar, or at a house party it's good.. but has it's limits, you can't close with JUST social proof.)

2. Yes, making new friends is awesome. Having a big circle of people that you can connect with is awesome. Will it get you laid? Nope. Sorry man, it'll improve your odds of meeting more woman. But if you can't close, you'll just be part of the social community, instead of the seduction community.

3. DHV is bullshit anyway... I've had chicks attracted to me just by me going up to them and saying "Hi". They didn't know that I had saved my stripper ex-girlfriend from a gang of evil sea-monkeys.

It's all about presence and vibe... I know they are vague words thrown around in the community a lot, but at least it's more real than DHV. DHV is logical.... woman aren't logical.... attraction isn't logical... you shouldn't speak logical.

I'm all for MM when it's teaching groundwork for social interactions.

ie: Strong body language, have fun, smile, kino, conversational skills (storytelling and DHVing)

No one else teaches such awesome simple social structure, especially for guys that have no social clue whatsoever. This type of Game can be applied anywhere in life.

You can argue whether MM is any good for the level after that. But for teaching basic social etiquette, no one else comes close.

Author:	Alpha_Man [ Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:31 pm ]
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Who do you think is better? Mystery peacocking vs. Gambler's movie star effect, etc. etc. Give more and more examples

Author:	Alpha_Man [ Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:35 pm ]
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gambler (kiss ) vs. mystery (kiss gambit)? mystery's negs vs. gambler's stealth attraction? etc.

Author:	Sticksie [ Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:30 pm ]
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mystery being a wierdo vs gambler's acting fairly normall

Author:	AFCJimmyDoyle [ Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:19 pm ]
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Dude, mystery doesn't really have thes respect or the following he once had. He seems to be viewed by people very similar to him or obviously people new to the game. Gambler takes it hands down really, forget who's material is better because it shoudl be about who would you rather end up like after learning game?

Author:	Coldman [ Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:02 am ]
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Mystery's pussyway indirect, over the shoulder and with the mindset of: I'm lower value than her that's why I have to DHV (demonstrate higher value) and show her that I'm awesome, while acting disinterested and then neg her so that I'm even more high value. Not to mention the weird peacocking/outfit. or Gambler's being fun/playful and seductive and actually looking normal? hmmm.... dunno

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Author:	typh1 [ Fri Mar 25, 2011 7:25 pm ]
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SPAM vs Superman? No idea pal, i bet total world annihilation.

Author:	TuneChiYuh [ Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:49 pm ]
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I'd just like to say I bumped into Gambler in a club in my home town, I saw him snog about 6 girls in about 10 miniutes, we had an awesome night, I got 2 snogs.. he got an f-close

Author:	Influx [ Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:32 pm ]
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I have to say, Mystery is better... I mean when I've Mystery and Gambler work Mystery seems not to rushed and Mystery also seems like he's attarcting the whole room whilst Gambler focuses on one girl at a time! Gambler a super good PUA! One the best! As good as Mystery... I doubt it...

Author:	Coldman [ Sun Jun 19, 2011 7:07 pm ]
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Quote: I have to say, Mystery is better... I mean when I've Mystery and Gambler work Mystery seems not to rushed and Mystery also seems like he's attarcting the whole room whilst Gambler focuses on one girl at a time! Gambler a super good PUA! One the best! As good as Mystery... I doubt it... lol... why would you want to "attract" a room? are you going to fuck everyone inside there and have a big orgy or what?

Author:	Hagakure01 [ Mon Jun 20, 2011 8:09 pm ]
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Quote: Quote: I have to say, Mystery is better... I mean when I've Mystery and Gambler work Mystery seems not to rushed and Mystery also seems like he's attarcting the whole room whilst Gambler focuses on one girl at a time! Gambler a super good PUA! One the best! As good as Mystery... I doubt it... lol... why would you want to "attract" a room? are you going to fuck everyone inside there and have a big orgy or what? 1. "Attracting the room" gives you more social proof therefore increasing your chances of getting the hottest girl in the place. 2. PUA isn't only about getting girls. It's a lifestyle. Wouldn't it be more fun to make new friends and whatnot? 3. Alot of you are misconstrued as to what the Mystery Method actually is. MM doesn't say you are lower value so you must DHV as an absolute truth. It's all a PERCEPTION. If Gambler rolls in like a "movie star" isn't that DHVing anyway? Some of you need to wise up.

Author:	Coldman [ Mon Jun 20, 2011 8:26 pm ]
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Quote: Quote: Quote: I have to say, Mystery is better... I mean when I've Mystery and Gambler work Mystery seems not to rushed and Mystery also seems like he's attarcting the whole room whilst Gambler focuses on one girl at a time! Gambler a super good PUA! One the best! As good as Mystery... I doubt it... lol... why would you want to "attract" a room? are you going to fuck everyone inside there and have a big orgy or what? 1. "Attracting the room" gives you more social proof therefore increasing your chances of getting the hottest girl in the place. 2. PUA isn't only about getting girls. It's a lifestyle. Wouldn't it be more fun to make new friends and whatnot? 3. Alot of you are misconstrued as to what the Mystery Method actually is. MM doesn't say you are lower value so you must DHV as an absolute truth. It's all a PERCEPTION. If Gambler rolls in like a "movie star" isn't that DHVing anyway? Some of you need to wise up. Have you ever tried social proof? I mean, actually went out, in-field, stood in a club with 3+ HOT chicks around you and grabbing you, hugging you, etc. I have. Does that improve the odds of getting with a hot girl that's on the other side of the club? uuhh... no. Nobody gives a shit. Nobody notices you in a big club. Social proof is bullshit. (In big clubs anyway, at your local bar, or at a house party it's good.. but has it's limits, you can't close with JUST social proof.) 2. Yes, making new friends is awesome. Having a big circle of people that you can connect with is awesome. Will it get you laid? Nope. Sorry man, it'll improve your odds of meeting more woman. But if you can't close, you'll just be part of the social community, instead of the seduction community. 3. DHV is bullshit anyway... I've had chicks attracted to me just by me going up to them and saying "Hi". They didn't know that I had saved my stripper ex-girlfriend from a gang of evil sea-monkeys. It's all about presence and vibe... I know they are vague words thrown around in the community a lot, but at least it's more real than DHV. DHV is logical.... woman aren't logical.... attraction isn't logical... you shouldn't speak logical.

Author:	Hagakure01 [ Mon Jun 20, 2011 8:37 pm ]
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Quote: Quote: Quote: lol... why would you want to "attract" a room? are you going to fuck everyone inside there and have a big orgy or what? 1. "Attracting the room" gives you more social proof therefore increasing your chances of getting the hottest girl in the place. 2. PUA isn't only about getting girls. It's a lifestyle. Wouldn't it be more fun to make new friends and whatnot? 3. Alot of you are misconstrued as to what the Mystery Method actually is. MM doesn't say you are lower value so you must DHV as an absolute truth. It's all a PERCEPTION. If Gambler rolls in like a "movie star" isn't that DHVing anyway? Some of you need to wise up. Have you ever tried social proof? I mean, actually went out, in-field, stood in a club with 3+ HOT chicks around you and grabbing you, hugging you, etc. I have. Does that improve the odds of getting with a hot girl that's on the other side of the club? uuhh... no. Nobody gives a shit. Nobody notices you in a big club. Social proof is bullshit. (In big clubs anyway, at your local bar, or at a house party it's good.. but has it's limits, you can't close with JUST social proof.) 2. Yes, making new friends is awesome. Having a big circle of people that you can connect with is awesome. Will it get you laid? Nope. Sorry man, it'll improve your odds of meeting more woman. But if you can't close, you'll just be part of the social community, instead of the seduction community. 3. DHV is bullshit anyway... I've had chicks attracted to me just by me going up to them and saying "Hi". They didn't know that I had saved my stripper ex-girlfriend from a gang of evil sea-monkeys. It's all about presence and vibe... I know they are vague words thrown around in the community a lot, but at least it's more real than DHV. DHV is logical.... woman aren't logical.... attraction isn't logical... you shouldn't speak logical. "you can't close with JUST social proof." - You can't open without any options either. "DHV is bullshit anyway... I've had chicks attracted to me just by me going up to them and saying "Hi". They didn't know that I had saved my stripper ex-girlfriend from a gang of evil sea-monkeys." - Same. I've had and always do have when I'm out, chicks attracted to me and most of the time it's before I say a word. So what? If DHV will increase your chances then I'm all for it. "It's all about presence and vibe" - True. Both are a DHV. Mystery had a list of I think 11 or so DHV's in his book. Here's news for you guys: DHV's aren't limited to only the ones he mentioned. Use your head. Seriously I don't think most of you fully understand MM at all. You know it but you don't know it back to front and inside out - if you did you wouldn't be making such comments about DHVs and wearing stupid hats.

Author:	Bloke [ Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:38 am ]
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I'm all for MM when it's teaching groundwork for social interactions. ie: Strong body language, have fun, smile, kino, conversational skills (storytelling and DHVing) No one else teaches such awesome simple social structure, especially for guys that have no social clue whatsoever. This type of Game can be applied anywhere in life. You can argue whether MM is any good for the level after that. But for teaching basic social etiquette, no one else comes close.

Author:	Prince Rain [ Sun Jun 26, 2011 3:36 am ]
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Quote: I'm all for MM when it's teaching groundwork for social interactions. ie: Strong body language, have fun, smile, kino, conversational skills (storytelling and DHVing) No one else teaches such awesome simple social structure, especially for guys that have no social clue whatsoever. This type of Game can be applied anywhere in life. You can argue whether MM is any good for the level after that. But for teaching basic social etiquette, no one else comes close.

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Author:	napora [ Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:02 pm ]
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both systems have good things to offer. and i do agree with Hagakure01 i think you don't really understand DHV. you might not need it. and for all i can see, when you're seducing a girl you are always using a DHV at some point. you might call it something else or you might not even know you'r using it. do you show confidence? ==> you are DHVing. do you use good posture and body language? ==> you are DHVing. DHV= demonstrating higher value. the only thing rong with the concept might be the name. higher value should be good value. the concept is that you show your personality at a girl. And your personality is always =confidence, humor, having fun, being real, ... . and let me guess. does gambler uses this? YES!!! does mistery uses this? YES!!!! it's all the same shit it's just a different explanation. i really beliefe in MM. it's a simple structure. perfect to learn how attraction works. when you understand how it works. you won't need it anymore and you won't be talking about sets, DHV, IOI. you'll just wing it. i don't really like the peacocking because where i live, they would not allow me in the club dressed like that. but hey, that's cultural. it probably works in the USA.