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Author:  nighcrawler [ Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:19 am ]
Post subject:  60 years of challenge good for beginners?

My first product i bought is 60 YOC and i just wanna know is it really good for a beginner?

Author:  P4ddy [ Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 60 years of challenge good for beginners?

Absolutely fucking definitely. 60YOC cuts straight through all the gratuitous fluff that you will find in most other PUA material, and directly addresses your inner game when it comes to approaching, hitting on, and sleeping with women, and how it is affecting your behavior around women.

You can do all this other 'game' stuff like DHV stories, negs, showing off your biceps etc, but if you don't physically escalate the vibe in some way, you are basically just having a platonic conversation with a women. Even saying "I want to fuck you" doesn't move the train forward like eye contact, moving closer and silence/slight smirk. It's serious seduction. I'm not saying that you shouldn't use other pieces of game you find elsewhere, but ask yourself why you are using them. Is it because it is a genuine solution to a logistical problem with you and the women getting together? Or is it because you are trying to avoid the awkward and humiliating feeling of potential rejection? If the latter, there's work to be done. It's scary, particularly if you haven't had much positive feedback lately, but after enough attempts you will see that it really, really does pay off, and you will begin to resonate a kind of natural sexual energy around women.

60 is basically about feel the fear and do it anyway, getting right to the core of the sexual relationship between men and women. Your goal should be to at least be able to do the stuff he suggests, and then alter it afterwards if required. The 60yoc mindset is like the omega point of game, and it's the only pua material that has truly helped me get out of dry spells. Shortly after reading and internalizing 60yoc I got with multiple women, and loads of my female friends started telling me how they found me much sexier than usual! This was in a matter of days, no lie! So clearly I'm a strong advocate of his stuff, especially since prior to this I was always keeping the situation sexually diffused and joking away the tension. It's the main (if not only) weapon in my pick up arsenal nowadays, although I do use it to my own style of course, and I'm sure you will too.

Author:  nighcrawler [ Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 60 years of challenge good for beginners?

did you ever mix with any method with 60 yoc?

Author:  P4ddy [ Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 60 years of challenge good for beginners?

Not really, I used it as a stand alone style, but within my own comfort zones to begin with. As I started getting some serious success, I was more prepared to try some of the bolder stuff out.

Don't get me wrong, it hasn't done a 180 on my love life, I still suffer from sexless ruts, but 60YOC almost always comes into it when I get myself out of them. The mindsets are epic, I'd like to have a poster of them on my wall!

Initially I play pretty safe with it. For example I was chatting with a girl and it was clear she kind of liked me, so I blurted 'How about a celebrationary kiss?' (it was some kind of celebration), and we made out. That's more classic game. But that really got my heart pumping and my mojo up, and I gradually I got to 'Escalation god mode' or whatever, where I'd just start talking to a girl for a few secs, and then I'd shut up and start moving closer and closer, and while she was trying to keep talking (but she didn't move away - she was just dealing with the tension I was creating by rambling on) I'd just smirk, say 'Mhm' or 'I dunno, maybe' (while smiling slightly) until I was right in her face and then kissing her, and they'd go FUCKING CRAZY. You are as close to James Bond in her eyes as you can ever be when you do that. I did this in front of groups of friends, they are floored by it. I also had a housemate (natural) who would pull crazy numbers of women, and his approach was more or less identical. Except when you have it down on paper, you can be even more efficient in dealing with the fear.

Seriously, when you get past the first two 'god modes' (opening and escalating) you are like the death star, and these women are like the millennium falcon in your unstoppable tractor beam. BOOM. You spot them on the dance floor, lock eyes, you confidently walk towards her, keep chat simple 'How's it going?' or w/e, but all the while you have this outrageously confident sexual vibe resonating off you. These girls were forcing their numbers on me and telling me to call them when I left the club. Sadly I hadn't properly got over my sexual fears, and now I'm living with my mum again, so times are a bit dull once more. :(

Just to clarify, it doesn't eliminate rejection, but it makes it quick and painless. Some girls will walk away when you escalate, and others will tell you to slow down (but they often stick around ;) ), but when you're in the zone it's like you're untouchable, and the girls can tell, making you 10x more attractive.

It can also be used in more social situations after a bit of practice, as you will naturally begin to give off a sexual vibe when talking to women you like. AKA escalating the vibe becomes a natural part of you, to some extent. But to sustain this natural resonance you have to keep your mojo up by taking those terrifying jumps: opening a girl, escalating the vibe, going for the IOM, and pushing for the f-close. IMO ultimately everything else is fluff, only use it if you need to create a bit of comfort.

If you want a video demonstration, here's Gambler repeating basically the same stuff (technique wise):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-unuqF4uklE

Author:  Defy [ Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 60 years of challenge good for beginners?

I don't think this is good for beginners. It definitely depends on where you are coming from, but I am quite certain that 60 would make no sense to me when I first started this process.

But 60 is by far the best and only thing you actually need.

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