Its been a while since I've visited this site, and while I was skimming through the health and fitness section, I noticed some disturbing misinformation. Instead of replying to every thread, I'm starting this one as a bit of a wake up call.

The Ugly Truth is that neither eating more protein or upping calorie intake causes you to gain more muscle from working out. Doing these things are going to make your gut bigger, and your wallet smaller, while giving you no physical muscle building benefit. As much as we all wish that it was not true, the myth of eat big to get big, is just that, a myth. There is no scientific evidence that proves that excessive calories or protein adds to muscle building. In fact, numerous studies have shown that it does NOT add to muscle building.

Now obviously, if you are malnourished eating more is going to help. But to those that are not malnourished, spare your wallet and gut, accept the truth.

I don't know where you're getting your information from but I have an immediate family member who is a full time athlete. He boyfriend is on a human bio course at Loughborough. Protein within 20 - 30 minutes after you exercise will go towards your muscle growth. After this time it is pointless but before it definitely helps. If you don't eat right you won't bulk up. Carbohydrates do give energy to cells for protein synthesis and use but proteins which are ingested go to three places. Excess proteins pass through, important proteins are used immediately and non specific proteins are transformed into useful ones by your body. I'm sure everyone who's had a protein shake or similar after exercise always feels 'less shake' and stronger' immediately after

Niceboy

Protein can make you just as fat as carbs they dont just pass through . I forget what the process is called but certain amino acids are broken down and "mimic" glucose (i believe) and stimulate insulin levels "dont make me look it up cause I will'' it was in The Max Contraction books and Body By Science book.

Final word-
You dont need extra anything! 16 extra calories a day to build 10 pounds of muscle over the course of a year. Protien has been made an issue in order to sell you a consumable good its a fuckin business. eat a well balanced diet train hard (intensly), allowing enough time between workouts for recovery than growth.

No gym science (jerk off science). WAKE UP and realize its a business that is set up to see you fail, so they can make more money.

Yo,

Please do look it up as i'm genuinely interested. But you say you only need a few extra carbs but when you look at athletes, not even full time sports people, the calorie intake is 1,000's higher than mr average not teens.

Protein can and does pass straight through the body through deamination blah blah blah. It can be used in respiration too but the energy outcome is much lower than glucose. The major thing is that portein can't be stored in the body which is why i don't believe it can 'make you as fat as carbs'. Going back to basics everyone should know that protein is for growth and repair. If it does stay in the body, it's not for long. Protein and insulin - i know nothing.

I completely get what you mean about the franchise of it all. Simplist advice is to eat when your hungry and after exercise to replenish what you loose in your workout. I'm just not completely agreeing with the biology that protein doesn't help you at all after you've done a session

Niceboy

I don't know where you're getting your information from but I have an immediate family member who is a full time athlete. He boyfriend is on a human bio course at Loughborough. Protein within 20 - 30 minutes after you exercise will go towards your muscle growth. After this time it is pointless but before it definitely helps. If you don't eat right you won't bulk up. Carbohydrates do give energy to cells for protein synthesis and use but proteins which are ingested go to three places. Excess proteins pass through, important proteins are used immediately and non specific proteins are transformed into useful ones by your body. I'm sure everyone who's had a protein shake or similar after exercise always feels 'less shake' and stronger' immediately after

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Yo,

Please do look it up as i'm genuinely interested. But you say you only need a few extra carbs but when you look at athletes, not even full time sports people, the calorie intake is 1,000's higher than mr average not teens.

Protein can and does pass straight through the body through deamination blah blah blah. It can be used in respiration too but the energy outcome is much lower than glucose. The major thing is that portein can't be stored in the body which is why i don't believe it can 'make you as fat as carbs'. Going back to basics everyone should know that protein is for growth and repair. If it does stay in the body, it's not for long. Protein and insulin - i know nothing.

I completely get what you mean about the franchise of it all. Simplist advice is to eat when your hungry and after exercise to replenish what you loose in your workout. I'm just not completely agreeing with the biology that protein doesn't help you at all after you've done a session

Niceboy

Niceboy

Okay, let's take this from the top. The information comes from scientific studies and common sense. The 20-30 minute "window" after you work out, is a flat out lie. Its just a marketing scheme to make you think you need protein immediately after you workout, otherwise you don't get full results. And its inconvenient to try to consume protein through whole foods during this window. Therefore people buy protein supplements, like shakes or bars, to try to get the most out of their workout. But sadly, the "protein window" is a lie, and thus the end result is the supplement companies make more money, and you don't see anymore results. As far as "if you don't eat right you won't bulk up" goes, that is a half-truth that leads to huge misconceptions. I'll assume that when you say bulk up, you mean build muscle, since trying to gain fat would be silly (even though that is all you accomplish by eating more). As far as muscle building goes, there was a fat loss study recently that had the participants eating an insanely low 800 calories a day. The participants showed no adverse affects on muscle mass. There was also a separate study in which participants ate a very large 4000 calories a day, and those participants showed no greater gains in muscle mass than the control groups. So its pretty obvious that the amount of calories does not affect muscle growth rate. And onto excess protein not making you fat... I'm really not sure how it isn't self-evident that excess calories (regardless of the type of macronutrient) will be stored as body fat. It is true that simple-carbs are processed quicker, but protein is still processed.

Why are we having this huge conversation?

Bottom line is, it's called 100% of your daily intake for a reason.

If you consume 5000 grams of protein a day, it'll just make you fatter.

My friend works out all day and is super buff.

And you know what I tell him?

"Girls still prefer my body more than yours, unless you're trying to impress guys I've got you beat, and I work out maybe once a week!"