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| Author: | forestmonster [ Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | SHY girls FUCK THEM they fucked me over |
Okay how do you game a girl who is SUPER shy and only answers "YEAH" and "OKAY" to every single question or statement or when asked an open ended question only shares a 1 word answer. Do i interview her with a million questions? or do I bore her with a 45minute lecture about movies and shit in our environment and about myself? you see the problem is that verbally she's not interested, but non verbal she is interested. example: my face is 8 inches away from hers. she has space to move back or to the side but does not. invaded her space LIKE crazy my hand gestures next to her tits like 2 inches away and she did not move to the side or back. my hands touch her, shoulder, hands, and waist. she does not move back. good eye contact as well. SUPER submissive. hell i took her wallet went through all her credit cards, ID card, made her hold my jacket, took her notebook and went through it while negging her with "lets see them secrets" and she only smiles. she doesnt mention her boyfriend or any guy friends. since i did 98% of the talking the 1% her and 1% silence. she knew i was hitting on her i just bored the fuck out of her. WHAT THE FUCK, some girls show this interest but I hate being the only one talking. what can I do to make things better in the verbal field? I could tell she was fucking bored out of her mind and wanted me to leave for being so boring. shaking her legs like if hopping like a bunny. the first 3min her body was squared up with mine, but then after 5min or so until the end 45min she was no longer facing me square body. of course after 5min thats when i had used up most of the environment topics. -topics i used -movies, news, the environment like signs and halls. and only asked her 3 questions in 45min Yes i know while sitting her down i can sexually escalate with eye contact, touch, slow voice, and close body. but i always feel i should build comfort through rapport, which im good at when the girl offers some of her opinions on the topic were on. |
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| Author: | pleasureseeker [ Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:54 am ] |
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if she's giving you non verbal IOI's, then run a compliance test, and set some hoops up for her to jump through, if she does these and she's still not contributing to the conversation... she probably doesn't want to talk, so kiss her! then take it away, make her earn the next kiss by asking her to tell you something vulnerable also I personally think shy girls are a lot easier, I think they've felt more rejected because guys stop chasing them so they can look like an 8 but behave like a 6. |
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| Author: | Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SHY girls FUCK THEM they fucked me over |
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-topics i used
There's your problem.-movies, news, the environment like signs and halls. and only asked her 3 questions in 45min Your anger shouldn't be directed at her, she was just standing there. It should be directed towards yourself. NEWS? SIGNS? Come on. You want to get her talking? Ask her QUESTIONS about shit she CARES ABOUT. Dunno what she cares about? ASK HER! For example, you can start off with some kind of story or something that gets her a bit interested and laughing (always have some DHV stories in the back of your mind in case). Then, you can talk about something you're really passionate about, like you play music or something. If she plays too or likes the same music, boom, you got a conversation going. If not, just say "haha I went on a bit there, but it's because I'm so passionate about my music, I can talk for HOURS! I love people who are really into at least one cool thing. What are you passionate about?" Notice how this is a qualification question. You're saying you like people who have something they're really into, and then you're asking her what she's into. By answering "nothing" she's basically saying she's boring. By answering ANYTHING she's tacitly saying that she's the kind of girl you should be into. Also, she may have just been FUCKING BORING. Just cuz a girl is hot doesn't mean she's interesting, believe me. But however boring a girl is, you can always get her to talk about herself if you ask the right questions. EVERYONE loves talking about themselves. |
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| Author: | Tyras [ Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:03 am ] |
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If you open with something interesting the chances are that they are more likely to come out of their shell and throw away their barriers. "Oh my God, did you see that fight outside? Two girls were fighting over some guy. One of the girls grabbed the other girls top and ripped it open" *Wait for reaction* "Yeah, she ripped it open, she wasn't wearing a bra so her booby fell out, was the funniest face reaction I have ever seen." After this do a face which she will laugh to. Once you open with something interesting her barriers will come down and show you her true self. |
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| Author: | witch [ Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:05 am ] |
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Hey if you cannot extract a single word out of her except for yes or no, i guess she either does not understand you (some people pretend to understand a language they do not speak), or retarded (thats why she let you intrude her private space), anyway since you cannot do anything else just go for the physical stuff and hopefully she will let you Cheers |
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| Author: | forestmonster [ Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SHY girls FUCK THEM they fucked me over |
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-topics i used
There's your problem.-movies, news, the environment like signs and halls. and only asked her 3 questions in 45min Your anger shouldn't be directed at her, she was just standing there. It should be directed towards yourself. NEWS? SIGNS? Come on. Code: Yeah i am mad at myself for not knowing what the right things to say to a shy girl, so i said they fucked me over because im used to girls who offer at least 1 or 2 short comments on what i say and then i can build on those comments. the title is just to grab attention.
In other words I'm very open to all help and will not reject it just because I messed up the PU. It is my fault.
You want to get her talking? Ask her QUESTIONS about shit she CARES ABOUT.Dunno what she cares about? ASK HER! For example, you can start off with some kind of story or something that gets her a bit interested and laughing (always have some DHV stories in the back of your mind in case). Then, you can talk about something you're really passionate about, like you play music or something. If she plays too or likes the same music, boom, you got a conversation going. If not, just say "haha I went on a bit there, but it's because I'm so passionate about my music, I can talk for HOURS! I love people who are really into at least one cool thing. What are you passionate about?" Code: Very nice thanks. The only problem i see here is that she can pull the "I don't know how to sum this up card" and shy girls are very good at this. They know good ways to cover up their shyness by admitting that they don't want to think about it or bother summing it up or that the question is too difficult for them to answer on the spot.
I think a good way to overcome the "can't make up my mind" shit from shy chicks is to give them 2 or 3 options to choose from and then building on why they chose that answer. If she continues to not want to make a decision then i can neg her indirectly by saying "okay this time ill lower the options to 2, a simple true or false test like the ones in junior high school." basically implying she cannot makeup her mind for crap.
Notice how this is a qualification question. You're saying you like people who have something they're really into, and then you're asking her what she's into. By answering "nothing" she's basically saying she's boring. By answering ANYTHING she's tacitly saying that she's the kind of girl you should be into. Also, she may have just been FUCKING BORING. Just cuz a girl is hot doesn't mean she's interesting, believe me. But however boring a girl is, you can always get her to talk about herself if you ask the right questions. EVERYONE loves talking about themselves. Code: Any techniques on asking the right questions quicker? I know it will be different for every girl, but if there is a technique to identify what a girl could be interested in without asking her a million times would be cool. If not I'll stick to your earlier point of throwing a DHV to force her into answering a question.
That DHV force to answer technique is SO pure gold. Christ if I had known it before this I would have been laying this shy chick at this point. I would have opened her mind as wide as her legs could open that night. Hell everything i said about stupid movies and the news and things around us I could have turned into some fake ass DHV story lol.
"check out that sign, my buds and I once found a sign like that and decorated it with a bunch of stuff just to be creative. I like creative people, what creative things can you do?" obviously it's a bullshit story I came up with in 3 seconds LOL. "look at this hall, it looks like it came out of a horror movie. my buds and I spent halloween in this fucked up house and had to stay in there and scare people the most creative way possible. we had so much fun being creative and shit. What fun/creative stuff are you into?"
the beauty of this is that you can come up with the fake DHVs on the spot.
LOL omg i love this DHV sneaking the question technique because honestly I FUCKING HATE asking a million questions like if interviewing.
THANK YOU SO MUCH!
@Tyras Like some DHV's will work too, thanks man. Or interesting news like a crazed maniac SPAM millions of dollars. Quote:
or retarded (thats why she let you intrude her private space)
I always intrude girl's space as much as possible while assuming rapport. I don't ask "is that a good book" then take her book off her hands or open the book while in her hands I'll say "the research chart is in page 13" reach for the book and grab it "it's just talking about the last point made in drug research" open the book and grab it off. see how I sneak myself in? I use a story to get their mind thinking pictures and they don't even have time to think why the fuck is this guy going through my book or phone or necklace or jewelery or backpack or hand bag. Their brain gets them thinking that I'm one of the people she knows. Ever heard of it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, acts like a duck, its a fucking duck! Well act like someone who is her friend, talk like you're her friend, and move like one of her friends you'll be labeled her fucking friend LOL. It's rare that some chick says FUCK OFF. |
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| Author: | _Lothario_ [ Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:09 am ] |
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Stop asking questions that allow for one word answers... |
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| Author: | school25 [ Sat Jan 08, 2011 7:03 am ] |
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loooooooool bro last year I had the same problem we had some good textin moments but in real life she was so shy a real interview just move on to another girl or just good luck and try to build more confort |
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| Author: | FROZ3N [ Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:23 pm ] |
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Guys I had the same problem with a girl the other day. One girl was super cool and confident and the other was a wet flannel but I knew she liked me and she had potential. One of those intelligent book worms me thinks. Very cute tho. Tried talking to her but I couldn't get a hook on anything. Even though I caught IOIs left right and center. Thought I was being the man but I realized that I didn't bust on them or make them laugh or DHV or isolate or anything that would make them really catch on. They were bored, just like the above. Problem is I kept interviewing them with questions too which I'm knocking out of myself quite well. I could tell her attraction slid away and I had to get up at 5am to get my drivers license renewed thanks to South African efficiency so I left early. Reading all the Necro posts BTW and they are rocking! Making progress. Thanks all. |
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| Author: | forestmonster [ Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:47 am ] |
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Quote: Guys I had the same problem with a girl the other day. One girl was super cool and confident and the other was a wet flannel but I knew she liked me and she had potential.
What are the Necro posts? One of those intelligent book worms me thinks. Very cute tho. Tried talking to her but I couldn't get a hook on anything. Even though I caught IOIs left right and center. Thought I was being the man but I realized that I didn't bust on them or make them laugh or DHV or isolate or anything that would make them really catch on. They were bored, just like the above. Problem is I kept interviewing them with questions too which I'm knocking out of myself quite well. I could tell her attraction slid away and I had to get up at 5am to get my drivers license renewed thanks to South African efficiency so I left early. Reading all the Necro posts BTW and they are rocking! Making progress. Thanks all. Instead of interviewing I only talked about myself for 45min LOL which both bore the crap out of people. Here is a super shy girl. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUYql-4cMfw This guy throws like a million questions, but does a lot of statements based on observations, which you can quickly ran out of. Here are good pointers: 1st-question HB:1 word answer 2nd-statement based on observation or on that 1 word answer 3rd-then throw a story based on that 1 word answer and ask an open ended question so shell choose the topics and you're not standing there trying to guess the topics she would be into. So with the open ended question she'll give you a 1 word answer again, but it will be okay because it's something she is interested instead of what I did talk about something she is not interested in. Thanks again for this technique Blondguy PURE GOLD You know where you can practice getting people out of their shells. This website Omegle Omegle.com 90% of the people on that website are SUPER lame shy nerds living in basements trying to talk to girls. Pretend you're a girl and get those guys to talk. That's how I've been practicing. Here is one conversation tell me if there are too many questions or was the number of questions acceptable. I'm also working on framing questions to get long answers or ask questions that i can use to expand on. like have you ever been to the ocean? theyll say NO. then i can talk about the ocean and make it appear as if i had to tell them since they dont know about it. If a fast reader can tell me if I'm asking too many questions when uncalled for let me know please. Code: Omegle
Talk to strangers!
You're now chatting with a random stranger. Say hi!
Official messages from Omegle will not be sent with the label 'Stranger:'. Strangers claiming to
represent Omegle are lying.
You: hi!
Stranger: hello
You: 19 female california
Stranger: 21/m
You: what location.
Stranger: wadodra
You: i have no idea what that is...
You: where can i find it?
Stranger: it is small town
Stranger: in south hemisphere
You: so that is in south america or under europe?
Stranger: let me know ur name
You: jane.
You: yours?
Stranger: south america
Stranger: bryan
You: south america, i have never been there.
Stranger: ok
You: you watch family guy?
You: bryan is a character in that show.
Stranger: no i m seen that show
Stranger: sorry
You: how is S america compared to N ameria?
Stranger: i have never been there
You: its wonderful here the weather and types of places like national parks are works of art
Stranger: r u studying or pursuing some job
You: studying at my university for a degree in psychology. how the mind works
Stranger: thats really good
You: good in terms of what?
Stranger: i m math tutor
Stranger: for tutorvista
You: who do you tutor kids or adults?
Stranger: all
HERE I USED THE FORCE THE QUESTION THROUGH DHV BUT I USED A STUPID 1 WORD QUESTION LOL. still improving...
You: i think tutoring kids would be a lot simpler than adults from the time i tutored my niece but then i tried to tutor my dad and it was impossible. which have you found to be the easiest to tutor?
There are like 20-30 questions in here. I'm still trying to make it less. I'm practicing more on the forcing the question technique and following it with an open ended question.
Stranger: kids
You: why is that
Stranger: u r right
Stranger: because its easy
Stranger: simpler
You: i found that it was easier to tutor a kid because they have more time available and less problems to worry about than an adult has
Stranger: yes
Stranger: ur right
You: in other words kids have it much simpler than an adult and it shows with their learning
Stranger: yes
You: how do you deal with your passion for helping others. or is this tutoring job just a job for pay.
Stranger: they learn quickly
Stranger: for helping
You: i have a passion for helping others but i try to control it a lot. it gets easily exploited.
Stranger: its not a passion of mine
Stranger: yes
You: what's your true passion.
Stranger: i wanna to become no.1 tutor
Stranger: thats why
You: how much effort does that take?
Stranger: u not believe
Stranger: but its true
Stranger: i study more than 14 hrs a day
You: how much effort does it take to get to be the number 1 tutor
You: i remember working 15 hour days and then still working over time to get this project done.
Stranger: whats ur passion
Stranger: ok
Stranger: u r so laborious
You: had to put in a lot of effort to get it complete. i can see 14 hours per day is not something
that is simple
You: i have a passion for being creative. anywhere where I can be creative that is where i want to be.
Stranger: yes
Stranger: what u want to be
You: creative in being fun with friends, creative in making business and money, creative in
interacting with people.
You: i want to work with kids. in a school as the principle.
You: this will come alone in 4 or 5 years.
Stranger: ok
You: in 5 years where will you be doing?
You: what will you be doing?
Stranger: i m be the no.1
Stranger: i m teaching
Stranger: in my town
You: in 5 years im not surprised. studying 14 hours per day 365 days a year
You: is that only to one school you teach or how else do you teach
Stranger: no i m teach 4 tutorvista website
Stranger: hey jane
You: ill check out the website tonight. how do you pick your students. do people simply log in from
all over the world over the internet or do you pass out flyers around your city and such
Stranger: from all over world
You: how do you deal with language barriers
Stranger: i think that ur a intelligent girl
You: thank you. i think youre smart and fun.
Stranger: i teach in english only
You: that eliminates those language barriers. do you teach advance english or very basic english
Stranger: let me something special about u
Stranger: know
Stranger: let me know
Stranger: i teach maths
You: i always like to do as much work as possible and then once i stock pile all the work i shout out
and have everything complete. at this point i feel like im on top of the world and i love that feeling
Stranger: and it require basic english
You: im terrible at math.
Stranger: ur hard working too
Stranger: why
You: i think the problem is that i cannot focus on carrying too many numbers at once.
You: that has always messed me up in math
Stranger: yes
Stranger: it is the problem
You: do you easily carry the numbers in your head. or rely on paper to remember them,
Stranger: sometime on a paper
You: even a calculator lol
Stranger: should chat some
You: ?
Stranger: should we chat some personnel
You: sure thing
Stranger: issue
Stranger: s
You: shoot.
Stranger: r u have any boyfriend
You: no
You: you got a girl friend?
Stranger: dont be lie
Stranger: yes
You: i have no relationships.
You: except friends
Stranger is typing...
Lol look at the way this guy at every corner sucks up to me. I was pretending to be a girl and sometimes during the conversation I forget that I'm pretending and the constant "ur right" gets fucking annoying. No wonder most girls hate the sucking up from guys. Alright so by looking at this log you will learn that this is how 90% of shy girls are. Sometimes they only go "yeah" or so. |
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| Author: | FROZ3N [ Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:07 am ] |
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Quote: What are the Necro posts?
Threads that have become too old and people on the forum have moved on since then. Doesn't really seem to apply here since SO many people join needing advice so then drop a reply in an old thread which is chilled. |
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