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Author:  Shyler [ Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:14 am ]
Post subject:  Push&Pull, Tention Loops

Push&Pull and tention loops are important aspects of the game, usefull in situations when you already start dating a girl, and you want to make her wanting for you. It's usefull in situations when she is playing hard to get and you want to let her chase you.

But I feel like there is still more to learn on this. I only now about verbal push&pull, like "wow you're the best dancer I've met! .... Actualy you're the 4th best dancer I've seen".

But is there a way you can push and pull in deeds? Sometimes I think about doing very enthousiastic to a girl at a certain day, only to be very aloof the other day. But I want to know more about this.

How do you guys push and pull in deeds? And when do you apply them?

Author:  Fiery5310 [ Mon Oct 04, 2010 5:42 pm ]
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I completely agree push-pull is my bread and butter in game. So you want some non-verbal pushes and pulls? Try talking to a chick then suddenly become distracted and start txting for a good like 5 minutes and dont listen to anything she says (even if you are not really txting anybody). Try not responding to a girls txt for like two days then hitting her up about something totally different. Use kino negs such as grabbing her hand (displays interest) then saying you have chubby fingers (displays disinterest). Or kinda put your arm around their shoulder in a brushing motion then pretend like you are wiping something off (if they ask say they had some stuff on their shirt). Make out with a chick and then straight up turn away and ignore her for 5 minutes, you're more likely to get further that night. I agree with you too, be mad friendly then mad aloof day to day to keep them guessing/build tension. Hope i helped a little.
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Author:  Shyler [ Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:40 pm ]
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Yes it is helpfull! But for some reason, push&pull is my sticky point. I find it hard to find the limits. Sometimes it doesn't feel natural to me. I'm not an push&pull person from myself.
Also, sometimes it feels like offending. When dancing with a girl on the dancefloor, I often say to girls with whom I'm dancing: "Wow you dance pretty good! ... (look dissapointed) Actualy, I think you can do way better than this". I have had cases when girls started dancing like mad, but also cases that they reacted offended and that the situation became awkward.
I can also imagine that a girl might get offended if you start to text message when she is talking to you.

But maybe it's just me. Was it hard to learn it for you? I think it's also a kind of attitude change.

Author:  Black Phantom [ Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:08 am ]
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Yes it is helpfull! But for some reason, push&pull is my sticky point. I find it hard to find the limits. Sometimes it doesn't feel natural to me. I'm not an push&pull person from myself.
Also, sometimes it feels like offending. When dancing with a girl on the dancefloor, I often say to girls with whom I'm dancing: "Wow you dance pretty good! ... (look dissapointed) Actualy, I think you can do way better than this". I have had cases when girls started dancing like mad, but also cases that they reacted offended and that the situation became awkward.
I can also imagine that a girl might get offended if you start to text message when she is talking to you.

But maybe it's just me. Was it hard to learn it for you? I think it's also a kind of attitude change.
idiot..missing the point

who cares if she gets offended?

Author:  Shyler [ Wed Oct 06, 2010 4:18 pm ]
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Yes it is helpfull! But for some reason, push&pull is my sticky point. I find it hard to find the limits. Sometimes it doesn't feel natural to me. I'm not an push&pull person from myself.
Also, sometimes it feels like offending. When dancing with a girl on the dancefloor, I often say to girls with whom I'm dancing: "Wow you dance pretty good! ... (look dissapointed) Actualy, I think you can do way better than this". I have had cases when girls started dancing like mad, but also cases that they reacted offended and that the situation became awkward.
I can also imagine that a girl might get offended if you start to text message when she is talking to you.

But maybe it's just me. Was it hard to learn it for you? I think it's also a kind of attitude change.
idiot..missing the point

who cares if she gets offended?
Haha! I think it's YOU who is missing the point.

If you use a technique, and it often offends or insults girls, then often your game is over. And if it is happening over and over again ... Hell yeah, you must be an idiot to not care, because then you continue with the same tactics which didn't work in the past and brought you failures.
With other words, you DO have to care in order to improve. If you don't care you don't improve.

So start thinking twice before you answer with an arrogant "omg afc, grow some balls, look at me I'm alfa and I don't give a shit, and I get girls" attitude. It's pathetic, insecure and unhelpfull, while this forum is here to share experiences.

Author:  Fiery5310 [ Sat Oct 09, 2010 3:22 pm ]
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Absolutely, and remember its push pull, this means you show interest and then disinterest, but too often people think it means you just offend the girl. In good push pull u need a pull too. try a compliment or something followed by the neg, in this case shes far less likely to get offended.
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