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Author:  jmm [ Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:43 am ]
Post subject:  Getting lots of numbers but not many 1st dates
Hi all,

I live in a busy college town (UCLA/Westwood Village), so have been trying a strategy where I talk to every girl while walking around campus, the area, etc. I have been getting better at getting numbers after a short 5 minute conversation while walking to a destination with about a 25-50% success rate at getting the number.

When I call the numbers a few days later though, it seems that most often I either get an answering machine to which the girls don't call back or the girls answer and either don't remember me until some explaining and/or blow me off.

Is this pretty common since there is little comfort building time, or is there likely something I am doing wrong as indicated by such a low hit rate?

In particular, does anyone have suggestions on:
(1) How long after should I call back? I usually get busy and call 3-7 days later which seems too long. Is it best to call the next day while they still remember me just to say hi even if I don't have time for a date?
(2) After getting their digits, should I call them on the spot or text them after so they have my number stored in with caller ID? I am thinking that since they do not know my number they may be less inclined to answer the call of a random number. Is there a smooth line here like "Here, I'll call you since you I know how badly you want my number"?
(3) Any feelings about adding them on facebook before calling back to try to build comfort indirectly? I could see the value, but could also see it being creepy and negative since some of my photos are drunk/wild, with other girls, etc -- so if they look deep enough I could be incriminated.
(4) Any recommendations of good videos or audio on phone game? I think this is definitely lacking cause I can feel myself performing better in person than on the phone. On the phone I feel like there is a rush before them having to go -- whereas in person things move slower and I feel more in control.

Anyone have any tips or similar experience?
Author:  Dangerboy [ Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:42 am ]
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There's no set time, really. Make sure that she takes your number too, that way she's more likely to answer.

I normally send a text shortly after getting the number, My favourite is one I got off the forums I think "Hey, you have my number now, but you're only allowed to call me ONCE a day, k? ;-)"

Girls are a lot less likely to give their numbers out if they've only known you for 5 mins, and even less likely to answer when you do call, so set up an instant date: "Listen, I have to get to class but how about we continue this over sundowners at 5 at place x?" If she agrees "Cool, let me just get your number in case I get held up"

If you can't get the instant date or if you forget, text her a bit or call her but keep the conversation light hearted and fun. I hardly ever call, to be honest, but that's the social norm here... Always be the one to end the conversation, and ALWAYS end it at a high point. This shows that you've got other things to do and it leaves them wanting more.

As for facebook, I'd wait for her to add me rather.
Author:  jmm [ Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:02 pm ]
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Thanks 10seconds. Pretty good insight. Know of any good videos or audio on phone game?
Author:  Abdul-aAfc [ Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:44 pm ]
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The fact is some chicks will give their number to anyone that asks. you also have to look at the fact that they might not want to say no.
They are more likely to pick the phone up if they willingly gave you the number. You have to project value and make things happen

Numbers aren't a guarantee of anything.
Author:  ace_theory [ Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:24 pm ]
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Numbers are no indication of attraction or interest in some cases. You have to be able to read the body language well. When getting the number (notice I said not asking for it, NLP goes far in this department) make sure you read the signs right.

If not it is what I call a dead number. If you are friendly about it and the girls let you roll off in a calm, cool, collected mannor - you just increased your social value to anyone who saw.

Dead sets are not always losses as long as it provided DHV. Remember, if you control a set for even a few minutes and leave gracefully - other people will notice and view you as more alpha.
Author:  DJ Fuji [ Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:00 am ]
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PROBLEM: Lack of attraction, comfort, trust, or combination of these factors.
SYMPTOMS: Flakey numbers, no call backs, blow offs.

DIAGNOSIS: Don't worry about symptoms. Fix the problem and the symptoms will go away on their own. Focus on the fundamentals. I know that's easier said than done.

Here's a few quick ways to calibrate and reduce flakey numbers by a huge margin:

1. Go direct during the day time. If she continues to talk to you, it's on.

2. Don't ask for numbers. Instead, invite her to an event and if she agrees, ask her for the best way to get in touch. If she doesn't volunteer her number, refer to "PROBLEM" description above. And she would have flaked anyway. You just saved yourself the effort of worrying about another flake.

3. Try to instadate during the day. Much, MUCH better than a pocket full of flakey numbers.
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