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| Author: | calnick [ Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Kino Help!! |
Alright so I've been working on my game for some time and I have to say that I'm pretty decent at getting girls to be initially attracted to me BUT I haven't had much luck physically closing any of them. It's not that it doesn't happen but It's rare and it is usually initiated by them. I eventually bore them with all of my talk and no touch. That is what I need help with, unless I am really drunk, I am really awkward trying to kino the girls. I watched this how to kino series recently (search "how to kino (1/10)" on youtube to find it) and it helped a lot with understanding how kino can work when it is used correctly but I am still having problems doing it in the field. I have never really been comfortable with just touching anyone or being touched by anyone due to how I was raised, which sucks, and I just figured that out relatively recently. But that is something I want to change. I need help to get over my stupid reservations about kinoing. If anyone has any exercises to extend my comfort zone or wants to teach me and push me out of it, please let me know. Any help is greatly appreciated, Nick |
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| Author: | chevylover [ Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:10 pm ] |
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i'm in the same boat as you. or i was.... what you need to do is get over your anxiety about touching people....so the logical next step is to go touch people. just start by telling stories where contact would help act it out. take a girl golfing and "correct" her mistakes by touching her. go TOUCH people, otherwise you'll never get over it. it WILL be awkward at first, but you'll subconciously learn how to do it better and better. |
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| Author: | Thymology [ Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:09 am ] |
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Quote: I have never really been comfortable with just touching anyone or being touched by anyone due to how I was raised, which sucks, and I just figured that out relatively recently. But that is something I want to change.
Find an old-school Italian or family & chill w/ them for a while. I need help to get over my stupid reservations about kinoing. If anyone has any exercises to extend my comfort zone or wants to teach me and push me out of it, please let me know. But really, the girls have no idea what type of cultural background you come from. Like DeAngelo says "fake it until you make it". Pretend you're the type of guy that can kino naturally until it's actually natural for ya. You can start with bros first and/or find a wingman that has kino down cold and will make sure you break through the barrier every time you open a set. but chevylover is right, you just have to kino every opportunity you get. it'll be awkward at first but it'll get better and better just like any skill. |
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| Author: | MAXXIM [ Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:22 pm ] |
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Yes kinoing says more about your body language than anything else. It says " Hey im the ALPHA male and i get my dominate hands on anybody i like and want" . Women respond to kinos and if they kino you back., That is a definite IOI. The light is green. It gets you and HB comfortable with each other enough to continue the playful kinos and may lead to kissing and more MAXXIM |
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| Author: | calnick [ Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:06 am ] |
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First I want to say thanks for the advice, your insight will definitely help me in the future. I still have a request though, before this post I have been trying to get good at kinoing on my own and the progress has been.. painfully slow. I'm sure my progress will be accelerated from the tips you helpful fellas gave me but what I was really looking for was some sort of exercise with the same premise as the newbie mission, to break approach anxiety, but for kino so that I can get rid of my kino reservations fast or another great solution for me would be to get as Thymology said "a wingman that has kino down cold and will make sure you break through the barrier every time you open a set." So, anyone with some great excercises to break kino anxiety fast? Or even better someone who would be willing to go out and wing with me in the LA/OC area and mentor me a bit in the ways of kino? As always all help is greatly appreciated, Nick |
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| Author: | chevylover [ Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:28 am ] |
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isn't the newbie mission to go do approaches until your comfortable with them? you're going to have to do the same thing, but with kino. the way i see it is like this... lets say that game is a 5 step progression.... you need to get step one down really well before you get to step two, you had to break out of your comfort zone to get good at step one. And you will have to break out of your confort zone to get good at step two. so its a constantly recycling process of getting comfortable with something and then making yourself uncomfortable by progressing. |
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| Author: | Thymology [ Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:55 am ] |
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So you're actually kino-ing often but it's still not coming naturally? That's inner-game I suppose. Why do you have reservations with kino? Did you kino well with gfs? What's your social circle like right now? Is it low quality or high quality? Is there a lot of kino in your social circle? Quote: So, anyone with some great excercises to break kino anxiety fast? Or even better someone who would be willing to go out and wing with me in the LA/OC area and mentor me a bit in the ways of kino?
Try sending out thirty or so messages on the PAIR system. & there's always a bunch of seminars and bootcamps in LA; try going to one and networking w/ other puas. http://www.fastseduction.com/pair.shtml |
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| Author: | Kornkid89 [ Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kino Help!! |
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That is what I need help with, unless I am really drunk,...
Yo calnick maybe this can help you with being more comfortable touching someone you can just think of it as telling them a story. Search "THE RED ROAD" (i cant link it yet cause i just started to post here.)I have never really been comfortable with just touching anyone or being touched by anyone due to how I was raised, which sucks, and I just figured that out relatively recently. But that is something I want to change. and trust me they will find it very funny, just go from there cause you will be holding their hand for basically as long as you make the story. Have fun with it too man. |
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| Author: | Voodoo.Fresh [ Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:06 pm ] |
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here are my two tips - kino everyone all the time (family, men, animals, whatever. not every touch is sexual). aim at overdoing it a bit, you'll be suprise from the reactions. eye contact. keep it strong and meaningful, or you'll feel and look like you're doing something you are not used to. |
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| Author: | TheJ [ Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:35 pm ] |
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If you are somewhat playfull, ask for a 'High 5' after a witty remark or funny comment. Touch her elbow (few seconds) when talking. Tell her her hair look fun/funny/nice/soft and touch the end of her hair with the back of your fingers. Ask her to give you her hand and go for a hand reading exercise (get some Palmistry basics first or give her a Barnum Statement http://www.denisdutton.com/cold_reading.htm). Give her a little hand massage while your at it. Initiate a Thumb war... anything goes really. When it's time to escalate, but you hand on her lower back or on the back of her neck). Hope this helps. |
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