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Author:  gropher [ Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:38 am ]
Post subject:  DLV yourself on purpose

Some time ago i read an article in a scientific journal (cant remember which one so can't give a reference) about a study that was conducted with regards to DLV's. The contention was that women find it attractive if a man can confidantly DLV because they see it as having the confidence (alphaness :) ) to DLV and thereby be attractive... Of course you would have to do this in a C&F kind of way like a funny story where you were an idiot.

Has anyone ever had experience with this?

Author:  Chiggs [ Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:58 am ]
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You could, and maybe even should, do that in C1. Have some sort of "vulnerability" story. I've had some good results with it. the reason it works is that it triggers the "Willingness to emote" attraction switch.

Author:  Dangerboy [ Tue Dec 30, 2008 8:22 am ]
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same principle applies to self-depreciating humour.
David D mentions it in his book i think... and Zip has mentioned it a few times, saying she finds well timed self depreciating humour very attractive.

a lot of being confident and comfortable in your own skin involves knowing your limitations and being able to accept. once you've accepted them you can confidently joke about them.
i'm tall and skinny. i like being tall and skinny.
"you're only talking to me because you want a ticket to the gun show" - one of my favs.

what you read isn't really any breakthrough news, but it's not a concept that most people new to the community are aware of.
it's a pretty big part of my style though, so i'm encouraging everyone to try it.

Author:  Chief [ Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:07 am ]
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Zan Perrion says that having the ability to make fun of yourself is attractive to women.

There's also the "handicap principle" in evolutionary psychology that seems to support this view.

Author:  jose di maria [ Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:17 pm ]
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having a sense of humour is not a dlv.
in fact, being able to laugh at yourself can be seen as a major dhv.

Author:  Agent Whore 32 [ Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:47 pm ]
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i think thats real good, ive done it and i get laughs but i know when to stop cuz i got plenty of times where i seem like an idiot lol, i think if you dont limit yourself you might come off as a clown , so yeah thats not bad but i only do it once or twice,
like when taking turns "whats one of the stupidest things youve ever done, or whats a time when you were really embarrassed?"

and then you can neg (tease) about it

Author:  Sincerelee [ Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:55 pm ]
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I don't DLV for anything. If I want to build comfort, I raise her up after disqualifying. i don't neg much either.

When I do neg, it tends to be viceral so I don't do it.

I don't DLV because I can not. There is nothing about me that is of low value.

Author:  xBossx [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:48 am ]
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I don't DLV because I can not. There is nothing about me that is of low value.
How about bragging?

Author:  Dangerboy [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:15 am ]
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I don't DLV because I can not. There is nothing about me that is of low value.
you must have some super powers or something for an ego like that...

(and part of being confident is being comfortable admitting that you have flaws :roll: )

Author:  Sincerelee [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:28 pm ]
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No. Egos can be misleading. Everything about me appeals to women.

I do have flaws. I love too much. I trust too much. I care nothing about others' opinions of me.

You might point out that my response shows that I care about others' opinions of me. This is not the case. I simply love my fellow PUAs enough to respond to misinformation. 8)

Author:  gropher [ Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:59 am ]
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No. Egos can be misleading. Everything about me appeals to women.

I do have flaws. I love too much. I trust too much. I care nothing about others' opinions of me.

You might point out that my response shows that I care about others' opinions of me. This is not the case. I simply love my fellow PUAs enough to respond to misinformation. 8)
Mate, you're way off topic...

Author:  Sincerelee [ Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:26 am ]
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No, gropher, a PUA should never DLV himself. That is my point. If there seems to be a discrepancy between her value and yours, raise hers.

Author:  Marvel [ Sun Feb 15, 2009 5:20 pm ]
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u can DLV, but jokingly and wittingly, especially if it relates to her in some way (you share something embarrassing or stupid in common.) Just remember to be quick to jump out of it, never ever stay on the DLV path. You have to really feel the situation warrants it too.....

I neg'd a gal for her story about in elementary she was made by the teach to sit on her own away from the other kids.....then jumped in with a

"yeah, but don't worry (get in close to her and whisper), I can relate, it happen to me too."

And that was after everyone was done laughing at her. Number closed her.

Author:  davidlov [ Fri Feb 20, 2009 7:41 am ]
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naturals do it all the time, they arnt afraid to talk obout their insecurities
and its imo the best way to build comfort with either women or men. allowing them to freely open up to you knowing you wont judge them because they know your not perfect either.. love does not discriminate

Author:  AFCerik [ Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:03 am ]
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naturals do it all the time, they arnt afraid to talk obout their insecurities
and its imo the best way to build comfort with either women or men. allowing them to freely open up to you knowing you wont judge them because they know your not perfect either.. love does not discriminate
that sir, is so true

if you can openly talk about your flaws and joke around with it, people will attach to you more since they know you are human aswell.

if, for example, obama would come up to you and start acting all alpha you wouldn't change your opinion about him. however, if he would talk about his last speech that he screwed up youll feel more of a bond with him because you know he doesnt share that story with everyone, and hes human.

okay maybe a bad example but im not afraid to show my flaws over the i-net aswell. maybe there are even girls reading with this one you never know.

<- im human :oops:

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