PUA Forum :: Sticking at Stacking

While there are some good suggestions on this thread let me try to offer some advice to you as to "why" this isn't working for you.

First of all, you are not 'grounding the opener' by telling the group the reason 'why' you are asking them this. A lot of people forget to do this and it's very easily overlooked. This is a very important aspect to telling an indirect opener.

Let me give you an example of an opener I use...

MYSPACE OPENER

"Let me get a woman's opinion on something...I can only stay for a moment...(FTC) My good friend (Insert Girls Name) met a guy on myspace and they've been talking for a while, they seem to like each other. Do you think she should meet him?...(Cut her off) Before you answer...the reason I ask is because she is asking me for advice and I'm a little skeptical what to tell her, what do you think?"

Yes- "What if she ends up hurt, raped, abducted by aliens? I couldn't live with myself.

No- "What if she misses out on the love of her life because of me?"

Do you see how it differs from you asking a question. There is a story behind 'why' I'm asking thus creating a conversation around it. Secondly, I wrote this opener for myself based on a real situation. I can use this opener very well because it happened to my friend, and I know where I can take it.

Without the 'why' behind it you start getting yes and no responses. You know she's going to say yes or no so have something ready to that. Know where you're going to go with it. Be prepared.

Writing your own material is something that you can start working towards. Your material that you right as long as it is interesting to women, not too long, not creepy, and has a reason 'why' behind it should work fine.

Please consider 'grounding' your opener, and also writing your own material as well so you can then stack on whatever stories you want. I'll typically stack on an adventure this friend and I had then go from there.

Author:	Flourish [ Sun Dec 28, 2008 3:55 am ]
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Today I went out to practice my game, but i noticed something extremely flawed about it. I'm able to open just fine, but i'm having trouble stacking to a different subject. here's the way the conversation usually goes... Me: over shoulder I need your opinion on something. Girl: Ok...? Me: A girl has a boyfriend. But this girl goes to a party and kisses another girl on a dare. Is that cheating? Girl: No... Me: Ok...thanks.... That's where I lose my momentum. I just can't figure out what to say! I could stack with another opener, but I'm afraid that would just look random and irrelevant. Does anyone else have this problem? Can anyone help me fix it?

Author:	Nightynight [ Sun Dec 28, 2008 4:47 am ]
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take a piece of paper and write down possibilities, some subjects or stories you can tell. and you can even bring it with you and look at it before you approach

Author:	Playerone [ Sun Dec 28, 2008 5:37 am ]
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Chances are, if that happened you completely failed to connect with her on the opener. So you're going to have to keep fishing.

Author:	nermob [ Thu Jan 01, 2009 11:26 pm ]
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when she answers with a "yes" or "no", you can say "really? i've asked a few friends and it's about 50/50" and get her to qualify her response. as she responds, look for things that she says that you might lock onto and use to continue the convo.

Author:	L.H. [ Fri Jan 02, 2009 5:50 pm ]
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yeah, I usually ask WHY? and then a short story..

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Author:	Myth [ Fri Jan 02, 2009 6:51 pm ]
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I have trouble stacking so i cant give you much advise.. But my advise is dont use that opener to "The Pick Up Artist" like (and its already of used)

Author:	Charlie0 [ Fri Jan 02, 2009 7:43 pm ]
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I'd suggest reading a book on improving your conversation skills. Yes/no questions don't promote conversation well. However if you do decide to use one, have a scripted open-ended response for both possibilities.

Author:	JSmooth [ Fri Jan 02, 2009 7:59 pm ]
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While there are some good suggestions on this thread let me try to offer some advice to you as to "why" this isn't working for you. First of all, you are not 'grounding the opener' by telling the group the reason 'why' you are asking them this. A lot of people forget to do this and it's very easily overlooked. This is a very important aspect to telling an indirect opener. Let me give you an example of an opener I use... MYSPACE OPENER "Let me get a woman's opinion on something...I can only stay for a moment...(FTC) My good friend (Insert Girls Name) met a guy on myspace and they've been talking for a while, they seem to like each other. Do you think she should meet him?...(Cut her off) Before you answer...the reason I ask is because she is asking me for advice and I'm a little skeptical what to tell her, what do you think?" Yes- "What if she ends up hurt, raped, abducted by aliens? I couldn't live with myself. No- "What if she misses out on the love of her life because of me?" Do you see how it differs from you asking a question. There is a story behind 'why' I'm asking thus creating a conversation around it. Secondly, I wrote this opener for myself based on a real situation. I can use this opener very well because it happened to my friend, and I know where I can take it. Without the 'why' behind it you start getting yes and no responses. You know she's going to say yes or no so have something ready to that. Know where you're going to go with it. Be prepared. Writing your own material is something that you can start working towards. Your material that you right as long as it is interesting to women, not too long, not creepy, and has a reason 'why' behind it should work fine. Please consider 'grounding' your opener, and also writing your own material as well so you can then stack on whatever stories you want. I'll typically stack on an adventure this friend and I had then go from there.

Author:	LatinLover101 [ Sat Jan 03, 2009 8:50 pm ]
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Quote: While there are some good suggestions on this thread let me try to offer some advice to you as to "why" this isn't working for you. First of all, you are not 'grounding the opener' by telling the group the reason 'why' you are asking them this. A lot of people forget to do this and it's very easily overlooked. This is a very important aspect to telling an indirect opener. Let me give you an example of an opener I use... MYSPACE OPENER "Let me get a woman's opinion on something...I can only stay for a moment...(FTC) My good friend (Insert Girls Name) met a guy on myspace and they've been talking for a while, they seem to like each other. Do you think she should meet him?...(Cut her off) Before you answer...the reason I ask is because she is asking me for advice and I'm a little skeptical what to tell her, what do you think?" Yes- "What if she ends up hurt, raped, abducted by aliens? I couldn't live with myself. No- "What if she misses out on the love of her life because of me?" Do you see how it differs from you asking a question. There is a story behind 'why' I'm asking thus creating a conversation around it. Secondly, I wrote this opener for myself based on a real situation. I can use this opener very well because it happened to my friend, and I know where I can take it. Without the 'why' behind it you start getting yes and no responses. You know she's going to say yes or no so have something ready to that. Know where you're going to go with it. Be prepared. Writing your own material is something that you can start working towards. Your material that you right as long as it is interesting to women, not too long, not creepy, and has a reason 'why' behind it should work fine. Please consider 'grounding' your opener, and also writing your own material as well so you can then stack on whatever stories you want. I'll typically stack on an adventure this friend and I had then go from there. This is a great answer, could not have put it any better.

Author:	sorin93 [ Sun Jan 04, 2009 2:42 am ]
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jsmooth knows his shit haha i'll be using that

Author:	JSmooth [ Mon Jan 05, 2009 12:13 am ]
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Quote: This is a great answer, could not have put it any better. Quote: jsmooth knows his shit haha i'll be using that Enjoy the opener guys, glad I can help out.

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