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Author:  Flagman [ Fri Dec 26, 2008 3:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Buying drinks in mid-game
In Mystery's book The Mystery Method you can read the following:
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In A2, if she drops something you bust on her for it. You don't give her any of your compliance yet. However in Comfort, if she drops something you will pick it up for her. This is attractive as she wants someone to take care of her. She just doesn't want it untill mid-game
Does this mean that you should buy her drinks in mid-game? And what if she asks you for a drink in Comfort? Buying drinks is a good SOI but I'm wondering what to do in Comfort when she asks for one..
Author:  J_J_Okocha [ Fri Dec 26, 2008 5:31 pm ]
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u should never buy a girl a drink if she asks for it. u gotta make her earn one. if u have been talking to a girl for a while u can say something like "lets go to the bar, you've earned a drink from me."
Author:  Flagman [ Fri Dec 26, 2008 5:51 pm ]
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So, what you're saying is, only use it as a Statement of Interest. But when you're in Comfort what to say when she does ask for a drink? You can't bust on her for it right?

(Don't mind my english, i'm not english..)
Author:  J_J_Okocha [ Fri Dec 26, 2008 9:08 pm ]
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what im saying is only buy a girl a drink on your terms once u have built comfort. dont let her ask u for a drink, if she does ask for a drink just say no and say something like "i dont think you have earned a drink from me yet" or "i just met you, im trying to get to know u."
Author:  Stormy [ Fri Dec 26, 2008 9:37 pm ]
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There is nothing inherently beta about the act of buying someone a drink. Alphas buy people drinks all the time (actually moreso than betas, if my empirical observations serve me correctly). It all depends on why you're doing it.

I've had alpha guys buy me drinks before, usually because I told them a cool story or something and they wanted me to stick around and talk to them more. Which is totally normal, because alphas in bars have all the time in the world. They talk to everyone and have a great time doing it. Hell, I've had girls do it too... but those were usually my bartenders, and they were doing it to get my goodwill and ensure that the tips keep rolling in. :P

If you're doing it to build attraction or rapport, it's a bad idea.

If you're doing it to demonstrate to her that it's okay for her to have rapport with you, then it's fine.

Subtle difference, but important.

As a general rule, buy the girl a drink, IF YOU WANT, if she does something really awesome. Tells you a cool joke, funny story, whatever. If the girl is seeking rapport with you and qualifying herself to you, go ahead and buy the drink to demonstrate that you think she's cool.

A girl asking for a drink, however, is just asking for trouble. Make her jump through a hoop if she does that. Preferably a makeout-sized hoop. The idea here is to make sure you aren't getting played. A girl may ask you for a drink as a token of comfort, in which case it's cool to buy her one. But if she's just hustling you, make out with her first as a down payment of sorts.

And if she takes off after that, oh well. You just made out with a hot chick for the price of one drink. There are worse things to spend your money on. 8)
Author:  Whoopie [ Sat Dec 27, 2008 6:37 am ]
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Now when a girl askes me to buy them a drink. I give them a line my best friend's father told me.

"A Woman who askes for anything, Gets nothing! But a Woman who doesn't ask for anything, Give her the world"

Then you run a compliance test, make her qualify, and only buy her a drink because you want one yourself, but when you get the drink you pick the drink for her.

"I am getting thristy. I am about to get a Vodka Redbull, Would you like one?"

If she doesn't like that drink then she doesn't get a drink, but after a while you know what drinks girls like but not matter what you always pick their drink. It shows dominance and allows her to know that you will get her stuff but only on your terms.
Author:  Flagman [ Sat Dec 27, 2008 9:50 am ]
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Wow guys, some great advice! Thank you very much!
Author:  J_J_Okocha [ Sat Dec 27, 2008 6:15 pm ]
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Now when a girl askes me to buy them a drink. I give them a line my best friend's father told me.

"A Woman who askes for anything, Gets nothing! But a Woman who doesn't ask for anything, Give her the world"
i heard this in the Tpain song called "It Aint Me" on his new album
Author:  Whoopie [ Sun Dec 28, 2008 3:09 am ]
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Yes, It is on Tpain new CD, but It is a old saying though.
Author:  _Manna_ [ Sun Dec 28, 2008 5:33 pm ]
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you guys listen to T-Pain? I'm so sorry
Author:  stunt101 [ Sun Dec 28, 2008 7:39 pm ]
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Trade-off.
If she asks for a drink, say, "Okay, I'll tell you what. Rub my back for ten minutes and I'll go buy you a drink." Never give without recieving something in return.
Author:  danj150 [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:09 pm ]
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If a girl asks for a drink, id use it as a chance to neg with something like "Oh, you're one of those, are you?" said in a cheeky way, and then try and move the conversation on.

Wise or no?
Author:  daggaz [ Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:11 am ]
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bollucks.

If you are well into comfort, you should definitely buy her a drink, even if she asks. You can always call her on it later so she has to buy you one, but its done in a comfortable fashion. You arent proving yourselves to each other anymore, you are comfortable with each other, you accept each other and you both want to move in closer.

Im not saying dont continue playing compliance games, but they should be escalating into solid kino now, not "will this person do something for me" or "will I seem AFC if I respond" or "is he trying to buy me?" That BS is what happens in the opening stages, in attraction, when you dont really know each other. You are both over that now.

Even if you just got into comfort, this can be a solid footing for you to start on. Just dont rush to the bar like an AFC chump.. but then again, nothing you do is rushed or AFC, is it?

Im not saying that not doing it is necessarily outright wrong, you will probably still get a good response if you play with her, but there is a point and a limit. I get the feeling that people in this thread don't fully understand the differences between the stages in the game.

-The one guy who voted yes.

(by the way, the poll is a bit skewed... always is a pretty heavy qualifier, and I can see a lot of people voted 2 and are probably the ones talking about some of the situations later in the thread, but those situations arent accounted for in the possibilities either.)
Author:  Vinci [ Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:14 am ]
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lol yeahh never buy girls drinks. It lowers your value. If anything you should have her buy you a drink.
Author:  Vinci [ Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:15 am ]
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lol yeahh never buy girls drinks. It lowers your value. If anything you should have her buy you a drink.
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