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Author:  Swoop [ Thu Nov 27, 2008 5:56 am ]
Post subject:  Maintain The Objective/Making the Move

This was one of my sticking points for the longest time...

When you enter a set, after you have opened with something interesting/ fun/ engaging, you are in the process of setting the hook. But what are you trying to get from them/ or her?

Are you going into the set to crash and burn/ practice game?
Are you going into the set for a number?
Are you going in to get laid?

In order to maintain your objective, you first and foremost must have one! Understanding what you want will help you stay focused. Set your goal high, but have a default goal as well. (Number close attempt is always good)

So by this point, you should have picked your target, or have a potential in mind. Theoretically you are having a good time, laughing/ joking, displaying value and initiating kino. This IS a process but you do not have to look at it like a checklist! There is no black and white order for doing this, despite some meticulous methods many have offered. (it may help some to have a list of things, but it doesn't work for everyone). I'm a big fan of freestyle. Some may call it "natural."

Ok, so you did your open/ your neg(s)/ you did your routine/ you did some DHV... but now youre starting to stall-out... Awkward pauses are happening... Youre looking up or down or where ever trying to find something to say... and this is where you choke and the girls look at eachother like "OK...? Now what?" And your wall of confidence starts to crumble... How do you rise above?

You have to basic options.. TWO! and only two. These are what I call the MAKE IT HAPPEN moves.

You A) EJECT.
or you B) ISOLATE.

These are the two moves! Keep It Simple Sucka. If you go with A) you are pulling a number REGARDLESS! This is a small victory, but a victory none the less. Keep in mind, you have "something to do" or "someone to meet," you are a person who is in high demand. You should have set a false time constraint (FTC) already as well in which you are just following up on. Before you move on, you MUST go for the number close. "Ok, so here." You hand her your phone; she should understand whats going on. This is not that complicated. Do not over think this! In fact, its should be an impulse. She gives you her number (or not, at least you went for it) and you say your good byes. Then you LEAVE, or progress to option B...

B) You ISOLATE. This is a big step, and if you get the girl to isolate, congratulations! This means she is interested and you are doing well thus far. If you have not already initiated KINO, which you should have by now, you do so by leading her; either, holding her hand to the destination, or offering your arm. You should do this even if you have kino going (duh). So where do you take her?? IT DOESN"T FUCKING MATTER!!! Take her outside. Take her near the bar. Take her upstairs. Take her near the coat rack. As far as she is concerned, you are in complete control and know what you are doing. Remember, she is just along for the ride.

These are the two options I default to every time. I usually will always go for isolation, and I recommend you do too. This is where you kino escalate and bust your kiss close/ number close/ venue change. I know this isn't ground breaking stuff but a lot of people struggle with this step. I know I did. But its SO SIMPLE. YOU MUST BE THE MOVE MAKER! If she is high value HB8, 9, 10+, she most likely will not be initiating, unless you've got stellar game :wink:

Remember, if you aren't going forwards, you're going backwards! There aint no third direction. Hope this helps some of you. Happy sarging.

Author:  Chinaski [ Thu Nov 27, 2008 4:43 pm ]
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Hey Swoop, this is a very simple solution to a very common problem. I think you've done a smashing job on breaking it down to two choices. For the sake of building on your idea, I offer alternative 2a: If you have been going with heavy kino and the personal space barrier has already been closed, escalate right there. Kiss closing is essential if you have built the comfort and attraction levels so thickly you can cut the sexual tension with a knife. In this instance, isolating would be unnecessary or best saved until after kiss closing depending on your goal.

Peace

Author:  Swoop [ Thu Nov 27, 2008 7:21 pm ]
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I agree to an extent and welcome any criticism on this post. It is pretty simplified but I think its easy to remember and a good stepping stone for those haveing sticking points with this area.

I think its good to isolate before kiss closing; you don't have to, I've just found its easier without her friends or whoever standing right there. She'll be less inhibited.

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