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Have you actually had success with blatantly explaining it to your target like that? I'm getting really good at building attraction and comfort and understand plausible deniability, but I don't know the best way to convey the non judgemental frame. Like I said, do you say it out right just like that? Because it seems to 'logical' Is it betting to tell some sort of story about a hookup or something that doesn't display your judgment?[/quote]
It's the ultimate frame control man, "breaking the 4th wall"(call out the seduction, it's high risk high reward though). I've had plenty of success like that because by understanding that women need sex because it's good for them and conveying it to the girl means you understand that it's difficult to navigate her sexuality in this type of society and she is doing it because she is afraid of her reputation being ruined by being labeled a slut when she has fast sex. You are telling her "I know and I don't judge".
You are not literally saying "hey girl, I dont judge you if you fuck me fast" but rather telling her your views that convey that message more subtly.
If she comes out on the date she knows that it is romantic (unless you used snake seduction then shame on you!) but she wants to test you to see if you are actually who you say you are. So don't look at it as a secret operation only you know about and you are going to trick her into bed but rather a mutual seduction. That way if you "break the forth wall" by calling it out to re-gain the frame it's not something forbidden but rather you not hiding your intent (and your dick figuratively ofcourse
)I hope that makes sense. Check the links below
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna%E ... re_complex
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_wall