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Author:  BDragon [ Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Becoming a better storyteller

Hello all
I've noticed when I hold a conversation I tend to have people either cut me off or lose interest in my stories when I tell them. I'm not a very good story teller, I listen very well and ask questions and keep the conversation going but when the attention focuses on me I lose there interest and attraction because of how I tell and talk about myself. How do you tells stories (I don't make anything up its all real stories) in a way that gets people's attention and keeps it?

Author:  Jonx1000 [ Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Becoming a better storyteller

How was your weekend?

It was fine I went out with some friends.

How was your weekend?

It was badass tore down the city with my boys.

You don't have to lie or make up stories, but exaggerating helps they can tell if your bsing but they still find it more amusing than given the usual expected answer.

Author:  JackZero [ Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Becoming a better storyteller

You've touched on a very important part of being a good conversationalist. The fact that you can listen to another person talk and ask questions based on what they are talking about, you are probably better than most. In my opinion, where you are making your error is that you are trying to make the conversation about you. You talking about yourself doesn't make people like you more. Letting people talk to you and in turn showing them interest in what they have to say is what creates rapport. Also, when people are talking to you about themselves it's usually because they want you to find them more interesting.

The skill that you need to work on instead is how to drive the conversation in a direction that you want it to go and not worry about entertaining them with your stories. I guess the best way to put it is when you ask questions, learn how to ask segue questions.

Author:  fudge_88 [ Mon Mar 09, 2015 9:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Becoming a better storyteller

Jack makes sense. He gave you a great skill that would lend itself well to what you are already doing.

In my opinion you should use his advice. Also you have to work on your aggressive conversation skills.

I made a post on how to extend a conversation forever and tell stories out of anything.

Here is the quote:
Quote:
Hey my man no worries. Here is a simple trick to keep a conversation going forever.

Called conversational threading. If someone says a sentence there are a few subjects in it or at least 1. This is just basic English you know subjects and predicates all that stuff you learned in elementary school.

You take one of those and just say make a statement off of it giving the other person at least 3 positive ways they can take it. Then what ever they say back will have more subjects in it and you can jump off one of those.

After you run a thread it's course or can't come up with something you can always double back and pick any of the subjects you left alone.

Example: After you run a thread it's course you can always double back and pick any of the subjects you left alone.

I take the word thread out of that last sentence: "Yeah threads are a great way to communicate with people you don't know."

I take the word communicate: "Communication is key to life: I find that the only way you can make money in this world is through communication."

I take the word money: "The best ways to make money in this world is to set up a passive income and obtain financial freedom."

I take the word passive and Invoke the spirit of Majikal: "Passive income is for pussies! You need aggressive income!"

I take to word income: "There are ways to expand your income by using aggressiveness to work towards the passive income."

I double back and grab "people you don't know": "I find the best way to establish that aggressive mindset needed for PU, is to practice convincing people you don't know to hand over their money to you willingly."

I take this point and expand it into a story: "I used to work as a door to door salesman. Every day I would put on my cleanest suit then go to an office where they would focus on boosting your talkative state. I would be pumped, then I would go out and viciously assault the city in order to put food on my table."

You see how easy this is? I just had a conversation with myself and I could have kept it going indefinitely. You can talk forever. The beauty of this skill is that it can be used with any type of style you run. You can tailor your talking points to what ever you learned from your Guru, you will just never run out of things to say.
You'll realize that after you tell a story there will be a pause if the story was informative based. They will say good point or something and reflect on what you just said momentarily. The pause is fine, enjoy it because it's a natural part of the conversation. Then if you can't think of anything to say (a thread has come to it's end in your estimation) take a topic from a prior tread and start up a new one (or a subject that was said earlier in the thread that just ended.) As you start talking again there will be more thread opportunities created. A never ending amount to where you can't discuss every subject that was stated.

Author:  Black Phantom [ Fri Mar 13, 2015 5:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Becoming a better storyteller

Becoming a good story teller is not something you do overnight. It really takes time and practice.

But the number one thing, or the main thing you should focus on to become a better story teller
is to talk EMOTIONALLY, instead with only LOGIC.

Let me give you an example of what I mean.

Let's say a girl asks you how are you feeling at the moment.

Instead of saying, "I feel fine" or "I feel good" you say,

"You know how I feel? It's as if I'm swimming in an ocean, and as I'm swimming I see an island
ahead of me that I know would save my life if I can just get there...(PAUSE)...but as I'm swimming,
I can hear my friends in the background "Don't go, wait..."...that's kind of how I feel..."


Most women will know EXACTLY what you mean. Even if sometimes you don't even know what you're
talking about.

In other words, when you talk, talk in metaphors, instead giving direct answers. That's a good start if
you want to keep some more of that attraction and interest.

Wish you best,

Author:  BDragon [ Mon Mar 16, 2015 1:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Becoming a better storyteller

Thank you these were great tips to work into my game. Phantom I like the use of imagery in the conversation and Jack thanks about the point about segueing questions I;m going to be looking up material and i'll share what I find

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