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Girl with solid Game. How to handle?
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Author:  rukes [ Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:04 am ]
Post subject:  Girl with solid Game. How to handle?
Need some tips and feedbacks, my fellow players; How do you handle a girl with strong game?

Recently I was at a college house party, with great social proof. On the dance floor, there was this girl (HB7) who had massive IOIs on me and kept staring at me. At one point she came up to me to say I was cute and I opened her immediately. We grind a little, and made out a while before i isolated her and we went to the bar and continue making out. Every make out i will be the one pulling away first. I push-pull her a little, and she did the same as well showing no resistance, she always gives a teasing smile. After i negged her a little, she stood up and said "well okay i will go and find the next hottest guy in this party then". I knew it was a shit test, Base on what i've learned, i know i shouldn't chase after her, which will lower my value and make me seem needy. and it was a mistake. What would you guys have done in such a situation then?

Her background: she is quite a popular kid, on social media as well. That might explain her cocky attitude she tried to pull off. 
Author:  Heyimmatt [ Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Girl with solid Game. How to handle?
Maybe try illustrating to her that you're confident but also not afraid to lose her. Maybe you could have said something like, "fine by me, but why waste your time when you're already with the hottest guy here." Even if that doesn't work you're still in the same situation as her; able to go fine "the next hottest girl."
Author:  Jay (Majik) [ Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Girl with solid Game. How to handle?
Forget the fucking term "neg"

Forget about it. Seriously.

There's a difference between playfully teasing and insulting. Clearly, you insulted her.
Author:  LIFE PUA [ Fri Jun 13, 2014 9:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Girl with solid Game. How to handle?
She opened you by complimenting you, she was attracted. At that point you qualify her. A Neg is a seldom used punishment and a breaking rapport tool. It only works in specific situations, and when your value is low and hers is high.

She was attracted and ready to sleep with her, so you broke rapport/pushed her away and then ask what you did wrong?

You learned a lesson. Some tools work better at specific points in a PU.

A neg is a hard tease, not an insult. A neg can also be a Disqualifier of some sort. In no way does that mean an insult.

Magikal is right, abandon the Neg. It is the single hardest PUA attraction tool to calibrate for new guys. It is not something you just can read and run with.
Author:  rukes [ Fri Jun 13, 2014 10:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Girl with solid Game. How to handle?
Quote:
Forget the fucking term "neg"

Forget about it. Seriously.

There's a difference between playfully teasing and insulting. Clearly, you insulted her.
i calibrated it very carefully, it was more of a banter, and i knew she wasn't insulted. Its more of she wanted to change the frame of me being the prize, to her being the prize and wanted me to chase after her after she walked away. How do i handle such shit tests? she continued glaring at me the entire night when i went back to the dance floor, but she didn't make a move on another guy. Her value is pretty high as she was one of the more popular girls in the party that night. How will you guys go about it?
Author:  Mr.T [ Sat Jun 14, 2014 1:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Girl with solid Game. How to handle?
You should have gone to your friends and talked to them about 10 minutes in a place where she was able to see you. Preferable in a extraverted manner. Then she would have seen that your not needy and that you have a high social value. So she would have had the feeling that she would improve her value if she would have been with you. After the 10 minutes you should have approached her again and checked her for IOIs, if she showed some you should have talked to her again.

The reason why she left you alone is that she was bored of you because she thought there were no friends who missed you. Try to see the moment when She is going to leave and leave her first, that's something she doesn't experiences a lot. I know thats difficult but you can really see the moment. Another thing what could help is when you instruct a wing to come over every time you are talking to a girl and let him say: "Oh there you are! We were searching for you!" and then let him leave you alone with Her.

There's a important thing which means to be a MAN, never ever let her approach you. You MUST be the first one who begins a conversation. Simply ask you one question are you a pussy or are you a man? If she approached you, there's going to come the moment when she thinks about her actions and thinks she is a "slut" because she approached a man. So the biggest mistake you made, was not approaching Her when she was showing IOIs.
Author:  rukes [ Sat Jun 14, 2014 4:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Girl with solid Game. How to handle?
Quote:

There's a important thing which means to be a MAN, never ever let her approach you. You MUST be the first one who begins a conversation. Simply ask you one question are you a pussy or are you a man? If she approached you, there's going to come the moment when she thinks about her actions and thinks she is a "slut" because she approached a man. So the biggest mistake you made, was not approaching Her when she was showing IOIs.
Thanks for the tip in the first section.

She wasn't the one who opened tho, I opened her right after she showed strong IOIs on the dance floor and we started dancing before i isolated her to the bar. The thing is i could sense she wasn't bored when she acted like she walked away and said "well then i shall just go and find the second hottest guy in the party" - which she did not as she just went back to her friends and i noticed she kept glancing at me whenever i am near her. was it more of she tried to change the frame to her being the prize so that i would chase after her? In such a case, How should i open her again without making it seem like I'm chasing her?
Quote:
The reason why she left you alone is that she was bored of you because she thought there were no friends who missed you. Try to see the moment when She is going to leave and leave her first, that's something she doesn't experiences a lot. I know thats difficult but you can really see the moment. Another thing what could help is when you instruct a wing to come over every time you are talking to a girl and let him say: "Oh there you are! We were searching for you!" and then let him leave you alone with Her.
ok for this part, i had really high social proof because most of the people in the party knew me and acknowledged me(handshake and high five and stuff) as i was walking round the party with her. Till i isolated her to one corner then she started her shit test of wanting me to go and chase her back. Which refers back to my previous question. What could i have done better?
Author:  RunTheNumbers [ Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Girl with solid Game. How to handle?
Maybe you could just talk to another girl before going back to her. Then you could lead with something like, "hey, I found the next hottest girl - but I don't like to settle, do you?"
Author:  norwegianburns [ Sat Jun 14, 2014 4:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Girl with solid Game. How to handle?
I'm sorry. I can be a dick sometimes.
Author:  Digital_Spy [ Sat Jul 05, 2014 12:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Girl with solid Game. How to handle?
Has it ever occurred to you bozos that these girls know exactly what you're up to and are playing you at your own childish, fucked up mind games? Push-pull, pull-push. Isolate, be nice, ignore, insult, be nice. Wash and repeat. Christ. No wonder y'all don't know what you're doing. Girls like her can see you coming a fucking mile away. She beat you at your own game dude.
Author:  Zirk13 [ Sat Jul 05, 2014 12:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Girl with solid Game. How to handle?
digital your point is mute she was playing games, so basically your agreeing to the game itself it the girl is playing too so any insults you give now are mute. girls play games too nuff said
Author:  lukeyx [ Wed Jul 09, 2014 12:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Girl with solid Game. How to handle?
Too many people saying to go against it here. Why don't you help her out, take her up to someone and say 'she wanted you'. Shows you got balls and arent phased by her shit test
Author:  Black Phantom [ Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Girl with solid Game. How to handle?
I really don't get why are you making a big deal out of this, when there was clearly a lot of
things you could have said back.

She just said that, and you are over-analyzing the entire situation.

When she said, "Fine, I'll go and find the next hottest guy then"

...You could have responded with:

"So you think I'm the hottest guy...? Well you're not too bad yourself...
but I'm not sure there can be 2 hottest guys...You can either go with me, or take the 2nd
best...:) "

or

"I think I would first have to leave so somebody else can be the hottest..."

or just not even taking her comment seriously and saying something completely
off topic

"OMG. You really must be in love with me if you're trying to make me jealous already..."

or do something physical, like standing up and lifting her to your arms and just saying:

"Now I am taking you with me".

The point is to lead the situation and not analyze 37 times her sentence.

It doesn't matter.

Usually just ignoring something and keep doing what you want to do works better than anything.
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