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How about this my friends.
when messaging this girl would say 'meet up soon' or 'check you out soon'. But we haven't meet like a month after our kiss close. We both have other rs commitments.

What you're looking for in women is submissiveness and lack of resistance, not IOIs.

With every IOI a girl gives you, her interest level is going down every time. Why? Because she has to do all the work which makes her feel like a slut and your lack of action / lack of balls is making her pussy really dry.

Waiting for IOIs in the pickup context is fundamentally flawed. We men are not the passive gender, we do not wait to be "hunted" by women. Stop looking for IOIs and assume attraction. Once you assume attraction you can just keep going until you get the pull. What you're looking for in women is submissiveness and lack of resistance, not IOIs.

The reason why the concept of IOIs was invented was because Mystery was scared of rejection and wanted to know for sure that a girl really liked him before making a move. Insecurity much?

It's 2014 guys, are we really still talking about IOI's?

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Author:	Black Monty [ Mon Feb 17, 2014 6:24 pm ]
Post subject:	IOIs
Pretty sure most of us know the major IOI's: Hair touching Dilated pupils They touch you as often as they can They laugh at the things you say (sometime when not even joking) They ask a lot of questions Just wondering if any of you guys have noticed any new ones or obscure ones that you could point out? Perhaps "new" isn't the right word, but discussing this would be good I think for everyone

Author:	gambitnyc [ Mon Feb 17, 2014 8:44 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: IOIs
Sometimes if I'm chatting with a girl in a setting involving alcohol, we're both drinking, etc I will often offer them a sip of my drink under some pretense, i.e. it's so good, so refreshing, you've gotta try it, etc. If she wipes the rim, hesitates too long, declines, whatever you can give her shit for it but you know you've got a bit more to go. If she just goes right in and tries it, it's a good compliance test and also tells you you're probably in good shape.

Author:	GamesSN [ Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:05 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: IOIs
That's the most stupid IOI i've ever heard of, no offence. That isn't an IOI, gambit. That's down to personal preference. Some people wipe glasses, some people blow into glasses before pouring a drink and some people straight up will never drink from another persons glass. Just because someone drinks from your drink because you asked them to taste it doesn't mean it's an IOI, it just means they don't mind sharing a drink. It is, however, a good indication if the girl actively asks YOU for something like a sip of your drink and asks you specifically but be careful, don't be too compliant in giving it to her but don't get too complicated with that, be more aloof and don't make too much of a big deal out of it at first. There's one of two reasons for this: She likes you and wants to be closer with you so she seeks reasons to talk to you and be near you("Can I try your drink?") or she sees you as a patsy and knows she can score an easy drink from you. Keep an eye out for IOIs but don't bank on them. Get used to women being around you and you'll begin to notice things, subtle things that they actually can't control. Things like seeking you out at the corner of their eye, proximity, smiles, etc. Brushing the hair is just an obvious indication that she wants to show you she likes you(She's conscious of this in most cases and wants you to make a move/reciprocate the level of interest). Dilated pupils is just creepy. If you're actively looking for it it's easy to be creepy and if alcohol is involved they're going to be dilated anyway. There's just too many factors to account for when it comes to dilated pupils as an IOI. I would completely forget about that IOI altogether.

Author:	cool_hand [ Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:56 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: IOIs
The straw one is a good neg, and also funny. I ask to try their drink, they hand it me and just as I'm about to use the straw I say "you don't have cooties do you?". But for this to be funny, you've got to be at the right stage with her. If you've already busted her for a few things and had her laughing, then this straw thing will work nice. Another thing I'll do, if the girl is a pain in the ass at the start of a date, is to ask to try her drink, be about to take the straw, but then change my mind and drink from the side of the glass... it's important to hold the straw away from you, to show you're not doing out of politeness, but because you don't want to touch that icky straw!!

Author:	romeoredlips [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:03 am ]
Post subject:	Re: IOIs
How about this my friends. when messaging this girl would say 'meet up soon' or 'check you out soon'. But we haven't meet like a month after our kiss close. We both have other rs commitments.

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Author:	GamesSN [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:12 am ]
Post subject:	Re: IOIs
Quote: How about this my friends. when messaging this girl would say 'meet up soon' or 'check you out soon'. But we haven't meet like a month after our kiss close. We both have other rs commitments. Make the time to meet up with her and make it a solid plan. I'm guessing -- although i'm not 100% on how to infer your broken English(Eh?) -- you want to meet up with a girl you like and she likes you but it's been a month without actually meeting up. Tell her you want to see her, be firm, direct, make time and have her make time. Don't leave it as an optional thing, set it in stone. "I want to see you on X. Lets do it." If she flakes then move on.

Author:	Monsignor Crisanto [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:48 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: IOIs
Well, when a girl grabs your cock, then that's an IOI.

Author:	Hunter_Foxe [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 1:19 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: IOIs
With every IOI a girl gives you, her interest level is going down every time. Why? Because she has to do all the work which makes her feel like a slut and your lack of action / lack of balls is making her pussy really dry. Waiting for IOIs in the pickup context is fundamentally flawed. We men are not the passive gender, we do not wait to be "hunted" by women. Stop looking for IOIs and assume attraction. Once you assume attraction you can just keep going until you get the pull. What you're looking for in women is submissiveness and lack of resistance, not IOIs. The reason why the concept of IOIs was invented was because Mystery was scared of rejection and wanted to know for sure that a girl really liked him before making a move. Insecurity much? It's 2014 guys, are we really still talking about IOI's? .

Author:	Black Monty [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:10 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: IOIs
Quote: With every IOI a girl gives you, her interest level is going down every time. Why? Because she has to do all the work which makes her feel like a slut and your lack of action / lack of balls is making her pussy really dry. Waiting for IOIs in the pickup context is fundamentally flawed. We men are not the passive gender, we do not wait to be "hunted" by women. Stop looking for IOIs and assume attraction. Once you assume attraction you can just keep going until you get the pull. What you're looking for in women is submissiveness and lack of resistance, not IOIs. The reason why the concept of IOIs was invented was because Mystery was scared of rejection and wanted to know for sure that a girl really liked him before making a move. Insecurity much? It's 2014 guys, are we really still talking about IOI's? . Great point to be fair.

Author:	GamesSN [ Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:15 am ]
Post subject:	Re: IOIs
It really depends on the level of IOIs. The more subtle ones are the ones that are okay to build up on but when they're obvious it does make sense that you kill attraction by waiting too long when a girl is clearly interested in you. It's the same for me too, we lose interest when we don't receive interest or an IOI from a woman after we show them initial interest. Don't peg down IOIs as a whole just yet but back to what I said, you should be able to approach and generally gauge how a woman receives you and whether or not she wants your dick.

Author:	Darkie [ Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:42 am ]
Post subject:	Re: IOIs
Quote: With every IOI a girl gives you, her interest level is going down every time. Why? Because she has to do all the work which makes her feel like a slut and your lack of action / lack of balls is making her pussy really dry. Waiting for IOIs in the pickup context is fundamentally flawed. We men are not the passive gender, we do not wait to be "hunted" by women. Stop looking for IOIs and assume attraction. Once you assume attraction you can just keep going until you get the pull. What you're looking for in women is submissiveness and lack of resistance, not IOIs. The reason why the concept of IOIs was invented was because Mystery was scared of rejection and wanted to know for sure that a girl really liked him before making a move. Insecurity much? It's 2014 guys, are we really still talking about IOI's? . To each is his own. Yea some people dont like rejection so anyway to avoid it and still be successfull, they are going down that road. I for one can care less about rejection but what i do care about is wasting my time or boosting a girl's ego even more by approaching her and she not being interested. So i don't see why anyone would illiminate looking for ioi's. But you do bring up a good point of looking for submissive signs and Lack of resistance. So maybe you can educate some of us and let us know, what should we be looking for or saying to check for submissiveness and lack of resistance

Author:	Hunter_Foxe [ Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:34 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: IOIs
There's lots of ways you can do it, but compliance testing is the easiest way to see how submissive a girl is. A few examples: 1) High-five a girl on the dancefloor and pull her towards you to dance. No resistance. 2) Take her hand and lead her away from her friends to the bar or outside. No resistance. 3) Kiss her. No resistance / Only token resistance (ASD). 4) You need to pee, so you lead her to that area, give her your jacket and tell her to wait there for you. You get the idea. The reason for screening in this way is to set the scene for what she should expect in the bedroom. If you let her lead the interactions with her multiple IOI's before making a move, you are sub-communicating that you are submissive in the bedroom. You might even still get the lay, but it won't be the kind of sex or relationship you really want. If you let a girl be dominant, she will walk all over you and eventually cheat on you in the long run.

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