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| Author: | jackhere [ Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | What high values about yourself do you want to demonstrate |
I want to demonstrate Diligence, sensible, rational, dependable/reliable about myself, is that OK? What good characteristics about the target do you want to find so you can indicate your interest in her? For me, I want to find "diligence, being practical, dependable/reliable, living steadily, having faith in life, living faithfully" about her. Is it OK? |
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| Author: | GhostMan [ Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What high values about yourself do you want to demonstra |
I think those all sound like perfectly fine qualities to communicate and to seek out in a partner. For me I try to communicate confidence,lack of neediness, friendliness, being happy, creative/artistic, intelligence, honest, dependable, ambitious and worldly (wanting to travel etc.) Now typically it's hard to cover every attractive quality in one interaction, unless it's a long period of time over a couple of hours. All the qualities I want to demonstrate are also ones I seek out in others, so qualifying her and expressing my own personality and values conversationally intertwine with each other. |
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| Author: | In$tinct [ Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What high values about yourself do you want to demonstra |
It's fine, but don't forget sexuality. You need to demonstrate that you're a sexual entity or else you will end up in the friend-zone more often than not. I think this is a bit overthinking anyway. Demonstrate yourself. Nothing more, and even more importantly, nothing less. If the values you listed stand for you then it will come off naturally anyway so I don't think there's a reason to think about it. |
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| Author: | jackhere [ Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What high values about yourself do you want to demonstra |
The values I want to demonstrate are vastly different from the 6 characteristics of an alpha male Mystery thinks we need to demonstrate, which are 1. social proof, 2. confidence, 3. smile, 4. humor, 5.well groomed 6. a sense of connection, is there a problem with my values? More bluntly, if I demonstrate "diligence, being practical, dependable/reliable, living composedly, having faith in life" rather than "1. social proof, 2. confidence, 3. smile, 4. humor, 5.well groomed 6. a sense of connection", can I get girls? Is it easier or more difficult? |
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| Author: | In$tinct [ Wed Jan 15, 2014 3:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What high values about yourself do you want to demonstra |
God damn that wicked method... Here we have the exact reason why I detest the Mystery Method. It can't even explain basic principles without making the reader question his identity. Let's see those "values" 1. Social proof. Completely unnecessary. Can help though. 2. Confidence. Really? While I have to agree that confidence is important... Mystery sure has some interesting idea about confidence. $ 1,000,000 question: Which guy is more confident? A man who has to dress like a clown to get attention, bullshits women 24/7 to sleep with them, and needs to "neg" them to feel like they're on the same level as him, OR a man who walks up to a woman, looks her in the eyes, and tells her she looks absolutely stunning, and wonders if there is more to her, being genuinely interested in her as a human being, instead of looking at her like some machine to push the correct buttons. 3. Smile. Great now the involuntarily movements of my facial muscles is considered a value. Good to know it. 4. Humour. I have to agree this one. Good sense humour can take you a long way. 5. Well groomed. Welcome common sense. Yes, if you don't take care of yourself then no fucking way a decent woman will want to sleep with you. I have no idea why this is even necessary to be said. 6. Sense of connection. What the hell does this even mean? The closest term I can come up with is "mental masturbation". This is probably the most vague term ever in pick-up history. Sense of connection? Like being able to connect with people? Well that's no value. That's basic trait of a human being. It simply can not be lacked, it can only be surpressed by anxiety and even more importantly, by focusing on stupid unimportant shit instead of focusing on the actual human being you're talking to. And then again, I have to ask... How does the values you wish to demonstrate contradict this list? Because you say you want to "demonstrate this instead of what Mystery says". Why not simply both? Why can't you be a confident well groomed, confident guy with a good sense of humour, who has faith in life, is intelligent, and relyable. Hell if I were a woman I'd totally bang a guy like that. And also, I have to repeat, because it somehow got ignored... Sexuality. Don't forget motherfucking sexuality. You are a man, I suppose you have balls, and a penis between your legs. And I guess you want to use it but if you don't demonstrate this intention then women will assume you're just friendly or simply gay. You can keep mentally masturbating over these values or try actually fucking women. My suggestion is that you put that damn book back on the shelf where it belongs, and go out instead to meet people. The difference of effectiveness is incredibly big. |
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| Author: | meggisonj [ Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What high values about yourself do you want to demonstra |
The most often over looked DHV is social proofing. Everyone looks at you.. everyone loves attention and they CRAVE it. |
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