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| Author: | Philrg [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 2:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Help please - Mid game. |
Hello, I need help if any ones willing to offer. Basically I am just getting back into game after a spending time in relationships and just smoking weed between. I am now off the weed, I was doing every day. Well anyway, last year I have not been going out. Mainly because I moved back to my home town in south Yorkshire after years of been away from UK and I just wanted some time out, so I just spent the last year smoking weed with "bros" and building my business. Anyway, I got an invite to go into two last Saturday with my younger 18 year old sister and her friends (mostly male). Well I made my focus to just be on a really good vibe, be positive, have good conversation with the people in my group etc. Well i met this one girl, we was outside, she was on a table on her own so I just made eye contact, smiled, moved over and asked if I could sit here all cool like Great chat, was much shorter than we both wanted as her cusion was wanting to go to anther bar, but ok, I took her number, i txt her sunday night, she replies today, she asked for my facebook and then we have a facebook conversation. I was hoping for the analyst on that FB conversation. can I just post here? |
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| Author: | RiRi [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Help please - Mid game. |
Yes. |
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| Author: | Philrg [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 6:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Help please - Mid game. |
OK, so editing the names etc out i see a number of errors on my part, So i am left hanging, I will leave it a few days then call her on a good vibe, anyway guys, help me save this one. I am totally into this one ah. Conversation started today Her Hey Me Well hello NAME so how was the rest of your Saturday night in the end? Her Didn't really do much! Went to walkabout and watched my friend pull girls, hahaha.. wasn't very fun! then we went back to the place we were at earlier and I cooked everyone breakfast! How was yours? Oh you went to xxx School?! I went there too! Me No way Her Yeah haha! Me Awesome XXX School all the way Her How old did you say you were again? Me 32 i dont think i said Her I think you did say, then you asid 27 and then you said 32 again haha! Me hahaha okokoko I had a drink lol Her Yeah Me yes 32 but i feel 27 to fair to be fair Her haha Me how old are you ? Did you stay in XXX SCHOOL until the end ? just trying to figure out when you left x town for x town Her I'm 22. Yeah I was in X school until the end I moved to X when I was 18, then I moved to x when I was 19 Then I lived in X COUNTRY (NOT UK) until i was 21 and then when me and my sons father split up and he moved back to his country, I moved to X TOWN to be near my mum Me ok what country was he from? just curious Her X COUNTRY Me Nice country. I moved to X when I was 17 moved back to X when I was 21 got married that last untill I was just nearly 24 (more or less) then we spilt (no kids) then i moved to x country for 3 months then X COUNTRY for 9 months Her Ooh busy busy Are you still married? Me then back to X COUNTRY for 2 and half years and last years in X COUNTRY came back to X TOWN 14 months ago no not married Her Oh okay Me that ended when I was 24 2 and a bit years my last girl friend was like 14 months ago we was together a couple of years and when I came back to UK 14 months back I just moved back with my family for a little bit couldnt be arsed with dating or whatever Her Aww yeah I know that feeling aha Me hahaha yea i just got back and after all that time away from family an UK just wanted to chill and work and be with my lot Her Yeah! Me Well, I got a new place 2 months back so its nice to have my own place again I can totally say that lol Her haha yeah i love having my own place Me I work from home as well (like you i think) HER Yes Me so having your own space to create your own reality in is important, So you have a son Her yeah Her he'll be 2 in January Me haahah nice my sister x who i stay with for a bit she has young lads, my nephews, X is now 2 and half Her awww Me and X is 1 and a helf years Her cute Me cute as, like to play with them Her don't know how she copes with 2 young ones!! Me arrrhhhhhhhhhhhh dont ask its a tough job Her Does she do it alone too? Me she does a perfect job No, she is married to a X (NON UK) guy Her Aw i seee Me but he works full time Her Share the load a bit i guess oh Me head chef yea he helps allot tough though to be fair Her Thats good Me she is also obsessed with snakes and tattoos its like its her thing Her Oh right! Me same as one of my other sisters X she was out with us on Saturday, but you didn't see. Hows have you be finding life back in UK after spending some time away? Her Hmm, I like been around my friends and family again. Miss the hot weather though Me tell me about it living is X last 6 years was like 30 decrees most days last winter here for me was horrible i cam back in Oct then the last winter hit Her aww. Me Her name, it was bitter darling her I moved from X XOUNTRY in october too! 2 years ago though Me bitter and cold me 1 Her oh you poor thing Me I know. I know. Her those harsh winter nights Me all alone with one one to keep us warm as well its just not cricket lol Me hot water bottle Me Havent had one of them in ages Her I bought one a week ago! hahaha Me good thinking batgirl my place is single glazed because listed building so i need all the warmth I get Her Aww that must be real cold Me No, I just put the heating on always warm but i am trying to remember to turn off when i go sleep so my bill can be 200 not Her eep expensive gas bills! Me 400 Her my rent went out today Me at least it paid love you got anther month of chilling Her Yeah - true! Me so whats xxxxx then ? like your company or something? Her Not really a company it's just my streaming alias Me like gaming stuffs Her Yeah Me I am rubbish at games lol Her Haha yeah I remember you saying I wasn't drunk so Me BUSINESS FACEBOOK PAGE hahah thats one of my pages Her Ooh i seee Me for the human trader side. on algo side we dont use facebook the game i like to play is co-developing algos to make money on market so its a game Her I have no idea what you're talking about hahaha Me Algos is just like A.I in a game hahahaha Sorry boring work stuff. Her That's fine - I'll probably bore you with gaming stuff at some point and i'll look over at you, and you'll be just say staring with glazed eyes having no idea what i'm talking about too. sat* Me honestly speaking, i think if i found a game I like, i could boss it lol Her Yeah, well download league of legends, it's free so Me maybe one day, thanks x whats your plans fo rthis week just work (free is good) Her Nothing much - Like I said, I'm in x visiting my dad! So probably just take X (HER SON) out to the beach for a jump in some puddles! Me Sorry, I missed that I think. Good old x TOWN Me yes, take a nice walk tomorrow on the beach, get wrapped up Her Yeah Me should be nice then some fish and chips for lunch with a pot of tea Her Yes! sounds perfect Me It will be. Kind of wish I was taking a walk on the beach now. oh well Her Awww Me I might walk over a bride that goes over river don toorrow Her Do you drive? Me so I guess that can do Her River Don shall do Me I drive but I am currently with out a car, I guess I need to get one I was thinking to pick one up do you drive? Her Nooo I'll probably learn at some point! Me I guess I need to hurry up then and get anther car sorted. Her Me When you back in xxx sorry xxxx lol (do people call it xxxx, as like a thing, or just xxxx?) Her Just xxxx Me hahah Her my friends say xxxx though Me so right Her Me so have you done any dating with any decent guy since you been back? Her Hmm, I dated one guy but it didn't work out. Me fair does. Her He pretty much made me pay for everything, and I'm like.. a single mum anyway don't have too much money. Me was he with some problmes Her even though he was working full time, he'd be at my house for weeks at a time, and not pay for anything towards food/gas/elec etc. Me money moneys money problems i mean sorry or he was just tight Her I ended it when one day i ran out of electric, and i had no moneeey, and i was crying panicing and he said to me "I can give you a tenner, but you'll have to give me it back tomorrow" Me fuck him cunt Her Yeaaah. I ended it that day. Me Well, for me, money is a very subjective thing what i mean by that is that i honestly just dont care about it Her I wish I couldn't care about it Hard when you have a child, I guess Me I some times I have tons, some times I have not much, but always enough, I always shre though share what I have Her Well you never offered me a drink hahah! i'm kidding. I was only drinking water anyway. Me I think we did have a convo about a drink be your cuz was in rush to get movinng if I remember Her Yeah, he didn't want to lose that girl he was trying to get with, haha! Me but maybe I could of been more attentive Her I think my glass of water was full anyway Me I was a little drunk my self, but i did notice that we kind of connected a bit . Well I am looking forward to right this wrong Her Yeah, I think we got on well" Me and buy you a drink Her Haha okay! Me but you have to buy me one back though hahahahahah Her That's fine Me just kidding really bad joke x Her Hahaha I don't mind! me actually its funny in x COUNTRY and X COUNTRY the culture is women pay for nothing her ...I think I shall move there. Me hahahah it UK allot of people/guys can be a bit awkward I remember I have this one friend who is kind super rich but not great at dating whatever anyway Her aww i have a friend like that too! Me Though an old girlfriend of mine I set him up on a date with a really nice lass like they got on the whole thing then he made a fuss about picking up the bill i mean ffs buddy her Ohhh Me i know a joke, point is its the Man job to provide, in the end Her Admittedly, I do like a guy buying me things. Hahaha. as long as I get to return the favour in another way. Me Well we all like presents Her Me and it will soon be Christmas Her My sons birthday soon too Me why sad? Her lots of money Me Princess, he is two. Doesnt have to be some big affair. I have the same issue's with my sisters. if its a kid b-day party Me I've bought most of the things i wanted to though me they are hiring bouncy castles Her brb a quick second, sweetheart. Gotta bath JJ xx Me catering its a joke OTT ok honey, i will go back to work in a bit. hER Back Me me to had a bath my self one of my boys made an silly error by giving out the same account to 2 different guys. got me annoyed as it makes us look dumb dumb dumb, was so annoyed, so after I moaned at him, just went to distress in the bath. lol Her Oh dear Me its basicly like some one giving some ones gaming profile to anther guy by mistake and then they come in and mess up the stats well ok Her D: eep. that's badd. Ne it is very bad lost 2 weeks now oh well c'est la vie x is HER SON in bed now Her Yeah, he's sleeping Me nice Dont worry I really punished the guy for this error lol Her oh, how? Me by explaining to him what an total retard thing it was to to and how this should not of happened with the systems in place. her Me anyway, we revied the system Her Good! Me reviewed the system seems as though was just an error as we using new data base from 6 weeks back and there was some cross overs bla bla sorry boring it shoudl got me soo mad Her It's fine dw about it you can vent to me Me you too kind. although looking forward to vent in person x Her are you asking me out? Me kind of, I am all about seeing you again, felt like we got cut short last time Her Yeah stupid x (HER FRIEND) Me and we seemed to vibe well so I want to continue. stupid me as well, I could of easly said, I will come with you etc but I had to look after my lot and get back to my crazy little sister who almost caused a fight at the end of the night lol anyway4 Her oh dear! Me it wasnt her falut werll well some idiot guy said something to her boyfriend we all got over it like just some , like, whatever, type person you know move on Her yeah Me but she decided to be really vocal about it flying the flag of injustice or whatever really gving it to these guys Her hahaha Me basicly 3/4 proper X TOWN criminal chav guys had to drag her away and defuse on there side, I just explained to her after that she cant go off like that theres always gonna be people like that where we are its normal, they will always we the same way she can not go off like that cos its not fair on her group like puts people in not great situation like I want to fight 3 oafs you know get marks on my pretty facre lol As for our date, how does not this week, but next sound? x Her hmm i don't knowww i'll have to let you know if i can get a babysitter ME ok, so lets talk about it close to time. closer but I want us try and get to know each other as like I said, totally felt a good connection when I met you. Anyway I will go back to work and my things for now. Bye for now x but I really do want to take you on that date x (btw, I am rubbish at online chat with people I dont know that well) ___________END______________ NO REPLY SINCE, JUST LEFT IT FOR NOW. What do I do???? |
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| Author: | oceanx [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Help please - Mid game. |
With the next girl, a couple of light texts and set up a date. It's great that you are getting back into the game and this FB convo will help you regain your general skills with conversation w/ women so it's all good. Do what you were going to do, call or text her in a few days w/ a good vibe. Scrap the online chatting esp. since u said u don't like doing it very much. If a girl asks for your FB just say 'i quit fb it was not a good use of my time'. |
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| Author: | RiRi [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Help please - Mid game. |
Tips: Too much texting- It seems obvious part of the way down that you are infatuated/interested (way too early). The texting should be complimentary to "meeting up" in person. Too much info- You go into painstaking detail regarding everything. You end up flooding the convo (thus making you look beta and needy) and she's forced to play along. The key to a good text game is getting HER to talk. Your DHV was a little reckless - you had a few decent lines about "having space to create your own reality" which I thought were great starters to dig a little deeper into her personality, but she seemed more concerned about your kid (which you can't really control). Then she bawked on the "date" request. Remember, when you interact with anybody, the most important thing to observe are their "actions." She can be ultra nice, but its not real until she's actually trying to see you again. I think you escalated too much for a text-interaction and she started to feel a bit uncomfortable. Plus, when she asks if you are asking for a date, don't say "kind of." If you're going to commit, you gotta commit man. If she hasn't responded or anything by now, I'd say give it one more nudge specifically asking to hang out or just scrap it all because you'll be wasting your time as she continues to tell you she's busy. Waste of your time. |
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| Author: | Philrg [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 6:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Help please - Mid game. |
@ Oceanx + Group Thanks man. With the next girl??? There will never be a next girl. I want this one. lol. Totally had a bit of oneittis after meeting her, although its passing with every hour. Yes my convo skill's needs work, i think there are all there, just buried away and dusty as everything but I want to fix my mid game chat and at the same time aviod where possible, I guess the idea is to really connect with them when you met, really get into there head, have a good 20 mins (at least) with them, But even with all that, stupid chat can ruin my good work I did when I actually met her (or others). I do hear what your saying about online chat. If Girls ask for my facebook, can I just say "I dont give to strangers, if I get to know you and your a very girl I will add you, but for now lets just focus on me and you?" What you think, something like this. I dont want to lie and say I dont have, and I am man enough to say, no, your not having my facebook yet. I dunno whats your view? Well what I am gonna do now with the situation is get some of good looking high value friends to post on my FB, stuff like, come down to London dude, (they ask me on chat so I will just tell my bro to post on wall or something, i can tell him why, its cool, bros. Also I was gonna make the back ground of my facebook page my new company logo so like she will see some actively, then I just call her on Thursday and just been in player mood and make some jokes if about her not replying her just completely ignore it when I talk to her. @Riri + Group, Yes mate, it was painful readiing back last night when I was editing out the names and ID info. I feel a little sorry for her, I am not making this easy. But totally now I just need to say fuck all. She is props half expecting me to FB her, (btw way, these are Facebook messages not SMS) but I wont, I will just retreat and try and create some activity on my FB wall as stated previously. I was not making any conscious DHV at all, (i guess thats where the problem was) totally just rambling rubbish . And yes, saying Kind of was a little weak, I shoudl of been like. Yes. I dont want to give her anther nudge on facebook, (I am not saying I wont if its the best thing) but I tfeel I have to just not saying anything, and just call her, if I can get her on voice and shes not busy I can do reasonable work i think.....i think. Anyway, I will call her later in week. up untill this point she has not read or replied my last comments. Athough as I write this I care less and less....... Well it good form I will come back and provide updates on this situation as it developer's. But I am gonna fight this one. not letting go easy, IF I dont get, FINE, but I am not walking away with my head down. fuck that and I know that deep down I can, we did connect, allot, all in the eyes, but then I had to go fuck it up on FB CHAT... I am so retard. |
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| Author: | RiRi [ Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Help please - Mid game. |
Your confidence is waning and I can tell. Remember to look at all of this as one big learning experience because this happens ALL THE TIME. You could have impeccable "FB Chat" game, but sometimes luck and timing don't work out for you. Just focus less on trying to connect digitally, and more on meeting in person. If your main selling points are highlighted during a date, make the date happen and give yourself the best chance to succeed. For messaging practice, you can do it with anyone. You can message as many girls as you want just to get a feel for how to find a balance between being intriguing and alpha with words. The reason I say give her a nudge (meaning, send her a message), is that it expedites the process of knowing how she feels about you. If she says shes busy or continues to back off, you know exactly what to do: say fuck it and move on. If you continue to skirt around the result it'll just be more painful for you. So I say get that shit out of the way and move on if you need to. |
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| Author: | oceanx [ Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Help please - Mid game. |
Quote: @ stupid chat can ruin my good work I did when I actually met her (or others).
Exactly. The less you say the more you get laid. No need to go into a life story when you meet a girl if you are in the game for volume. You appear to be in the game to find that one girl but again, reveal too much or reveal the wrong thing for any particular girl and she can immediately friendzone you.Quote: If Girls ask for my facebook, can I just say "I dont give to strangers, if I get to know you and your a very girl I will add you
Just forget FB man. Whatever reason you give them is fine. I agree witih Riri: Drop all the digital stuff and just set up a date ASAP. If she doesn't agree, fine, move on to the next girl. Meet/text/date/sex. Keep that linear progression in your mind at all times. |
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| Author: | Philrg [ Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Help please - Mid game. |
@ RiRi & OceanX True, my confidence was waning, although I am just rebuilding it from the bottom again, but yes, this "incident" knocked me a bit. I guess deep down I have a sense of arrogance and it simply horrify's me on an inner level that she wouldn't be worshiping me and grateful for the fact that I like her. Its pretty messed up. I just fell in love with the idea of having a girlfriend again. You see, I am 32, I come back to my home town after 9 years away, Overall spent 3 years in Moscow 24 to 27 and the rest of my time in Brazil, the time in Moscow I can honestly say hand on heart I had a 18 months of been a pure player. I mean like I reached god status for a while, money was ok (not a key issue I find when it comes to game), I had an HB 9, she was just a hot babe like a model or something, she was pure sex, every man, every man wanted to fuck her. She was awesome and she empowered me allot. i was a totall cunt with her allot, out late ,partying, generaly not giving a fuck, but we also could go out together and just have a ball, we a strong alpha couple, no doubt. I have other little pecks in my life but nothing like that period. Also I was with a soild bunch of bros, and these guys are still bros but of course I moved away, others moved away, and people get married etc and all that. Brazil, it was good, up and down, again, it all came down to how I felt, I spent allot of my life so far living as a slave to my own emotions and warped mind. also the last 10 years have been like this Girlfriend 1 year to 2 years single 1 to 2 years, and so on and so on. My last girlfriend was a very nice girl, a good human you know, she helped my allot with my issues and really went out of her way to heal me, and it worked for the most part I will use more alpha words etc and fuck off the online thing. I mean mate, really, I am all about talking, txting a little bit if I have to, but connecting on FACEBOOK after meeting (unless already fucked) honestly does not serve me, I always alwways alwasy say some stupid shit, Always, its a joke. I guess in an abstract and semi-sub subconscious (although I dont think it was this on this case, this one was plain old desperation) way I do it on purpose, to test them, to watch them loose interest, which that proves a point they are just totally open to manipulation on any side, which then depressed me and makes me think whats the point. Some many people just on a very low way of thinking without any real depth, backbone, or even connection with there own selfs, people are so disconnected from the own inner selfs. When I have met some one who isnt, (generally after a year of been single I basicly make them my girl friend, move them in to where ever I am living and we have a very intense and deep relationship until I have exstuated it and her and I am bored. Its like after a year you notice all the hottys and you just start going wild in your mind, really wanting to fuck something else. Well I am back in my home town now, i was living with my sister for last 12 months, (just living in my inner shall smoking weed and putting work shit together, Although I haev no friends my own age here, all my own friends from school have either moved away or the ones that are here married and on totally different wave lengths, so my friends are my cusions and his crew and my little sisters and there crews (all are alpha leaders) But I guess (well I know) I use that has a spring board and move forward, done it before. (bit of an old hand but as you can see clearly lost my way a bit last period of time) Well I got a place 2 months ago so of course now I have a locale I need a bird, its been 8 months, and that was a shit one night stand, one of my sisters friends (pre-selection bla bla, but I was so drunk, she pulled me, when she took me to bed, i started to do my work, then I need a piss, went to the loo, had a wee, and lost the power and could not get it going again as was blind drunk so I just slobbered in her ear "it will do it in morning" and then died. She then just left when I was asleep so I never got the morning session, which after a drunk one night side, at least for me, is the better one. So in 13/14 months, that it, that one thing, oh, and one other bird 13 months ago, some bird not great looking pulled in london, but yea, 13 months thats it. So i am crazy man, fucking crazy, and now that I have a place and a will to live again I just got need to sort this. Am i looking for the one bird,a girlfriend, yes and no, i think i owe it to myself to master this shit again (like i did before when was a little younger) and the after I have dated (fucked a few) and i am back on the PUA vibe then I can make choice. But its not right to settle with a girl if its means having to settle with myself. I cant look at myself in the mirror if I did that to my self. I have to boss this shit, and ok, once I am on the other side again, i am sure I will be like, ok, whatever, the beat goes on, but it would be a dis service to my self to not put myself on the other side. I believe you only fail when you give up trying. As long as you stay focused, even if you fall a million times, the fact that get back up and try again makes you a winner! And unless there is some wrong with your mind, but with that kind of determination you will get want you need, no issue. You want to know something really fucked up, if I see a really beautiful 9/10 (like skinny model type thing that allot of guys like) I can be like what ever, talk with them, have a laugh natually DHV and I dont know, just easy, but then skinny models dont interest me, its like, not much sex appeal, you know, I think they can just tell I dont care or something but like they can actually tell there is no sexual attraction from my side, I am talking generally here of course and drawing on my personal history and experience, and I have many experiences where they was the one to pull me, (because I was pulling away, but like really pulling away, not like pulling away to do the whole game thing). Anyway, put me with a 5/6/7/8 who is a little chubby (what I like, liek really really like) just some average cute-ish bitch I went to school with and mate, I am shit, oh god, I am shit, I am wanting to fuck them so much, cute little curves, little plain face, whole thing. I guess what I am saying is I have found it much easier with the real hot ones than the average cute ones (that I love so much)..... Ok I dont want to go over the top here, maybe I am going a little OTT, its not like I can get any HB 9 or anything, at all, I am just saying props would find it easier then dealing with some stupid 6/7 bitch who is going though a host of inner personal issues and is watching every thing I say and do to see if it conforms to the norm of that city/country/local community or whatever. Anyway back to the subject matter at hand, so today I saw that she saw my message at 17:00, ok, and then at 20:47 she post on her facebook "It's so pathetic how desperate some guys are" 20 geeks guys liked it, all guys I think, let me check, ok 18 guys (and 2 girls). To be honest though, i think this is a bitch who talk to many guys or something, I dont think it was me that inspired that post, but of course who knows, props a few guys asked her out today (she added a few on her FB from the weekend, thats why wanted to close her early, again, no excuse for my idiot behavior, i fucked up). So maybe with me asking her out and no doubt a few others she just made the post. In any case, I have great news every one. I official dont give a fuck. Its official. Which makes me mad at my self for even putting my self and heart though all of that for 24/48 hours or something, it slike I need to get a grip. Well, I will call her, but I dont want to. All I want to do is delete her and never speak to her again, fucking whore!!!!! But I will call her, and I will just boss the bitch about on the phone if needs be and correct her, i knew there was a daugour with this girl from the beginning as she as allot of male geek freak worshipers (she is pro gamer) that I must not, not fall her to her world because as soon as I do she has controled. The moment I gave her my FB on SMS I put the first step in her stupid day online world, then when I stated chating and just having honest open conversation with her I took 2nd step. GAME OVER. fuck me, it was so obvious, I already knew this shit. I already fucking knew. But still I WAS desperate, i was even plaining our futures together in my mind for a few hours that sunday night so I totally fucked it when we spoke on the Monday. Anyway, I will call her, but honestly, I dont even know that I want to speak to her untill next week now, or shoudl I say try and speak to her, who knows, maybe she wont answer. but guys, we did connect when we met, like it was real. Not a pull/a close/ a connection. ANYWAY. The good thing is RiRi Is there is no pain anymore. That as gone. @ oceanx Totally in agreement Meet/text/date/sex keep that in mind, it will be the code Meet/text/date/sex, Meet/text/date/sex, ok I can do it. but still weak on txting but I will spend time and time learning, I have been practicing on Tinder, OMG, so ridiculous conversations on there to begin with, but I am getitng better. But for sure, fuck all the digal stuff, I will begin taking girls when I see them, In the supermarket, in the bar, on the street, on the train, the bus i will do it, although as I write this words I feel the anxiety enter me, i am not cured. But I just need to rebuild slowly I guess one building block at a time. Well I will let you know what news comes along, sorry for this been so long message but I have allot inside and I guess I need to let it out some how. Thank you for listing, really, i am feeling less alone. Conflicted at time's, I am. Peaces |
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| Author: | RiRi [ Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Help please - Mid game. |
Lot's of emotion there. I would just be conscious of being clear with your intentions/goals. You seem to be all over the place at the moment in terms of A. Moments of clarity and B. Moments where you misread the clarity. Its clear that, like anybody, we get bored. Super model, Wagyu Beef, blowjobs...it all gets old eventually. Unless you keep things fresh and you learn how to cultivate a relationship. You seem to lose focus when you are feeling "boss" as you say, and the women leave you (or you push them away) even though they made a genuine effort to help you through your issues. These are some things you need to hash out as well. Getting back into the "game" might be more or less a way for you to become clear on what (who) you want, rather than just a platform so you can get laid again. I support getting laid, unless you are the type of person who can't handle casual relationships etc. Because there are many people like that who feel like they need to hide behind a player persona. Some people pull it off, some don't. But it still serves a very important purpose. In terms of calling her: NO. If you don't give a fuck, why would you call? Can you answer that question? If she's mindlessly flirting with dudes then posting on FB that guys are desperate, she has a major personality flaw. Her love for attention has manifested this endless stable of obsessed men, and you are a statistic. The good news is: Thank fuck you figured it out. Now be the real "boss" and let it go. If she comes back trying to talk etc., just respond calmly that you have obligations in life and you're busy. She can do the math that she isn't getting attention (and that's a win for you). And finally: "I am been just like a bitch who smiles and agrees until she gets want she wants and then she fucks off, and I hate that because I dont want to be that person. Conflicted at time's, I am." You understand this on a very deep level. I think the problem isn't that you are "conflicted", its that you ignore the early signs because you have hope. You are probably very positive and rationalize some iffy behavior. Thus, you kind of walk yourself into a bad situation, but with a heart full of positivity. The next step will be for you to proactively identify the BS going on, and for you to actually act on it. Gone are the days of wandering mindlessly into a bad situation (that is recurring for you), here are the days where you squash problems before they even begin to affect YOU. This process is not only great for you, but helps you weed (pun intended) out crazy women, and hopefully, creating a system where you meet women that are worth your time. |
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| Author: | oceanx [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Help please - Mid game. |
I think it is important to first get very, very clear on what you want out of relationships etc: Sit back, take some time and envision what your perfect lifestyle would be when it comes to women: Is it having that loyal hot girlfriend who is always there for you, or is it having an exciting life of sexual variety with a bunch of different cool girls. That's the first step. Once you get there, it will be much easier for you to take control of things and put yourself in situations where you can move the ball forward to what you want. Whichever of the two or other options you prefer however, you are going to need to approach girls to get there, so get out and practice! |
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