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| Author: | AboveAverageChump [ Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Good at Opening, Bad at keeping her there |
I can usually go up to a girl and say something. In a bar or a party, I can usually keep that conversation going (we're in a bar, where everyone's social and looking to meet people, so I feel comfortable talking about random shit). But if I approach a girl in the wild, it's a lot harder to keep the conversation going, because a lot of time (unlike at a bar) the girl is not expecting to be approached. She might be shopping or walking or trying to get something done. I feel like this requires some sort of transition technique. Something you can say or do that makes them forget they're out in the wild, and makes them just want to start talking to you casually. Cause that's where I fail. I fail at transitioning them into that casual conversation. I would love to hear tips on how to do this. A note. I'm not really into the gimmicks (like a palm reading). I have a lot of love for the guys who do it. But I'm looking for something a little more low-key. |
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| Author: | .Sage. [ Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Good at Opening, Bad at keeping her there |
The problem is youre looking for "low key". Its your job for you to take her out of her world and bring her into yours. You cannot do that if youre trying to be low key or polite. Her auto rejection will assume her worries are more important, and youre out. Get into the headspace that youre giving her a chance to meet you, a chance to jump into a world far more exciting than her own. These gimmicks you avoid are just tools to invite her to see what else youre about. Master this inner game mindset first, because only when you believe your world is worth her time can you learn to seduce her on the spot. |
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| Author: | ProduceLearner [ Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Good at Opening, Bad at keeping her there |
So how would you open up to her in an open environment now that your mindset is correct |
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| Author: | HSP [ Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Good at Opening, Bad at keeping her there |
Quote: So how would you open up to her in an open environment now that your mindset is correct
Confidently walk up to her, say "HI, my name is ___", shake her hand, have good eye contact. If you are looking for some special line that is going to open them, you shouldn't be. What you say to her may be situational, you may have just stopped and said she was cute. It does not really matter just show her that you are a fun, dominant male with the above mindset^. Don't use some line that you've been saving in your head all day to use, it will come off as fake and may not work with your given situation. Just go practice that is how you will find what will work best for you. Nobody can tell you exactly what to say, because there are different situations and everyone has different techniques that work better with themselves than it would with another PUA. Trial and error is your opportunity.
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| Author: | michaelmorgan [ Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Good at Opening, Bad at keeping her there |
Day Game may actually be easier because you can come off as more genuine. Start with Cashmere sweater opener, believe that the cashmere sweater situation is really going on. If YOU believe it, she will too. And btw girls are always shopping or walking around thinking of what type of clothes to wear. Anyway, after that randomly "notice" which directions her eyes go when asking the opener, but don't tell her (get her to ask is perferred). Just say (hmm... that's interesting). That's you transition into eye cues. If you can pull off eye cues and she appreciates it (she will have already given you IOIs). You may not even need to do eye cues. I just did the opener, had her laughing when she asked about my friends sister's size. I then said ok thanks and went to leave. I came back a few seconds later and said to her that I thought she was genuinely a good person (cold read) and that I would be kicking myself if I walked away and never got to see her again. You're skipping some steps but it can be more efficient. Hope that helps, -MM |
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| Author: | goundy [ Wed Nov 27, 2013 3:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Good at Opening, Bad at keeping her there |
Its all about how you do it. I personally go direct because the indirect stuff doesnt sit with me well. Simpyl open with, hi your cute I wanted to come say hi. Then just talk casually like she was already your friend. Your problem is very content based. Aka you think the problem is having a hard time keeping a girl talking but look at the context of the problem. If you were talking to her like you already knew her, she would be sticking around and you can only do that if your really confident and comfortable. To do this, you need to just keep approach in very tough envrionments until your naturally feeling comfortable. After your more confident and relaxed, having an interaction will feel very natural. |
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| Author: | Zephh [ Wed Nov 27, 2013 5:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Good at Opening, Bad at keeping her there |
You don't need gimmicks. You just need to treat the girl like a human, and genuinely be interested in learning more about her. If you're interested in her, make sure you're making your intentions crystal clear. |
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| Author: | 7000 [ Wed Nov 27, 2013 10:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Good at Opening, Bad at keeping her there |
I think my answer is going to be a slightly different angle to those above. Daygame isn't conducive to long conversations. Like you say, if you're at a party where people are standing around chatting all night long, then it is much easier to keep a girl's attention. If you stop a girl whilst she's out shopping or on her way somewhere, she might be happy to stand and chat for 5 or 10 minutes perhaps, but she's probably got things to do. Rather than trying to get her to carry on the conversation longer, I would say you need to condense your game into the time you've got. Making an impression here is crucial because you can't run your normal more drawn out game. You have to get in, try to ramp up the attraction, ensure she is comfortable enough to give you her number or arrange a meet up for later on and not flake, and then get out. Another option is to have a "date" lined up immediately. So you stop a woman, do your condensed game version in 5 or 10 minutes and then go to a nearby and public coffee house. Many girls will be happy to have a 15 minute break if they're out shopping or something, as long as you haven't freaked them out before then. Bottom line is though, you will struggle more to get a long conversation going in day game than you will in night game, so you need to condense everything down into the time you have got. |
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