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| Author: | coolchris27 [ Fri Sep 13, 2013 2:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | what to say after the whole openinng banter talk.. |
I am having a problem as to what to say after opening, and doing the whole "where you from" "what school you go to" "who you here with" etc..i feel like i get stuck and have nothing else to say. I always build attraction right off the bat with strong eye contact and touching, but im having trouble building rapport. Whats your guys strategy on conversation topics after all the light banter is said? do you build rapport by finding other stuff in common? help : ( |
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| Author: | ozzypua [ Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: what to say after the whole openinng banter talk.. |
I go through the same but while I ask small talk stuff like u said I look for something to hook onto and multi thread like if youre from the same place u can share stories with her while maintaining good eye contact and when its time to go always get a hug if you cant kiss close or anything |
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| Author: | coolchris27 [ Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: what to say after the whole openinng banter talk.. |
Quote: I go through the same but while I ask small talk stuff like u said I look for something to hook onto and multi thread like if youre from the same place u can share stories with her while maintaining good eye contact and when its time to go always get a hug if you cant kiss close or anything
Thanks broI will definitely give that a try : ) |
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| Author: | Donston [ Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: what to say after the whole openinng banter talk.. |
My game makes the girl invest more in the interaction. - I use commanding and challenging tonality (CC for short). The tonality of your sentences drops. Imagine a police officer, your parents, or boss questioning you like you did something wrong or them ordering you to do something. The opposite is a homeless person asking for change. The homeless person's tonality rises. Homeless person, "Please sir, do you have any spare change?" - Now mix this with your interview questions. "Where are you from! (CC)" ... "How old are you! (CC)" - The reason to use CC tonality is because it is human nature for the other person to use a rising tonality and to qualify themselves to you. Plus it demonstrates various alpha/abundance male qualities. - Next is to use silence. Use silence and make it awkward. Basically, don't try at all. When people are interacting someone has to try to make the interaction move forward. By you not trying the girl will try. By me saying "don't try", I mean don't go in your head and try to impress her and convey value. The TRICK is to just focus on maintaining eye contact with the girl. Again don't try! - The reason to not try and just FOCUS on eye contact is because when the girl is staring in your eyes, the girl will sense that you are not going in your head and will see that you are not trying to convey value. Like other guys who've tried to hit on her, you are the only one who has not tried to convey value! This is super attractive to girls because this shows that you have abundance in your life (aka. You don't give a fuck because you have tons of girl in your life and you have confidence to meet others). - This is going to be hard at first because you will try to convey value ... and forget to FOCUS on just making eye contact. - When you know that you are doing this right ... 80% of your conversation will be the girl saying, "You are the best guy here", "You are so handsome", "You are beautiful" and her qualifying her self to you. She will game you. You become the prize. You become special ... not like the special how your mom thinks you are special ... but HOT girls will think you are special. *** The reason why this style is awesome ... because it is simple and you don't have to work hard. The girl chases you and you become present to the moment. When you become present to the moment ... all the things you've read about pick up skills, you will start to execute them (aka: Leading, going for the make out, going for the number, going for the decisive pull)... you will say the funniest and coolest things you've ever said and even surprise your self of how clever you are ... it's fucked up! The stuff I said above are attributes of a person who is the "Buyer" and the girl being the "Seller" ... most guys are the opposite who are trying to sell themselves to the girl. This demonstrates to the girl that you are looking for something out the interaction (aka: you come out as a needy chode/dancing monkey). The attributes explained above are behaviours of a guy who has abundance! Summary: - Use CC tonality to make the girl qualify to you and demonstrate Alpha male attributes. To cultivate this behaviour, at the beginning of your approach just try ordering the girl around in the first 30 seconds. - Don't try and just FOCUS on eye contact! Don't try as in don't go in your head trying to find something to say. To cultivate this behaviour, just FOCUS on the girls eyes and talk with pauses. This will feel awkward at first but once you see the results ... you will love this method! Lastly, just try it out before you question these methods. It's super mind boggling how effective this is. Plus it is simple and easy to do! It is difficult because our whole life we are taught to demonstrate value to get girls ... but that is all social conditioning and media bs ^_^! Good luck sir and enjoy! Donston |
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| Author: | GamesSN [ Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: what to say after the whole openinng banter talk.. |
I posted this in another thread earlier today... The thread was asking the same as this but posted in PUA Videos section... Quote: Remember the three phases in PU:
Sociable(Approach -> Opener) Comfortable(Hook -> Mid Game) Seduction(N-close, K-close, F-close) Split it up, think of the attributes for each phase and let it all just slot into your mind. Sociable(Confidence): Approach as the fun, interesting guy. Start with "Hey" then "I want to get your opinion on something..." as your opener. You may have to DHV and it's always good to neg a girl on first interaction, although a lot of people will say there's no need but it depends where you're from. Where i'm from women are generally harder to approach unless they're falling all over themselves drunk. If you already have higher value and it's obvious you won't need to neg them(Say you're best buds with Brad Pitt or you're the clubs owner). Comfort(Intelligence/Interest): Hook them in( http://www.pualingo.com/pua-definitions/hook-point-hp/ ), change your tone and be more of a comfortable, conversationalist around them. Talk about anything but most importantly talk about them without interviewing them. Ask simple questions and pay close attention. Don't be thinking about what you want to say next but get involved in the conversation. When she says her name is Cara, lives in X and is from Y you have three points to talk about! Her name(Is it unusual? Do plenty of women have the same name? Does it sound funny? Is it cute? What does her name say about her?), her place of birth(What's it like there do you remember? I've heard great things about that place!) and her current area. You can branch out from there. If you know about her area and know of interesting activities it's known for you can ask her if she does that activity. If she doesn't then you can keep stacking and go to a new thread to talk about hobbies. Just let conversation come naturally. There's also a few games you can play to make you more talkative and able to think on the spot. There's word association, the "One word story game." where you say a word, your friend says another word and together you make up a story. It's great! You can have fun with it in clubs or pubs and be as loud as you want to be, before long the girls at the other table are wondering why you're laughing so much -- There's your opener and they can join YOU! Seduction(Sexual energy/Dominance): Slow your conversation down, talk about intimate and deep things and refer to sex. If you know a bit about psychology and it comes up you can talk shit about how a lot of human behaviour is triggered and you can start talking about how one of the most obvious triggers are the sexual triggers. Either she'll ask about this or you'll elaborate and give an example of one of your sexual triggers and how crazy and sexual it makes you. When you're saying this point to the trigger and make sure she pays attention then go into detail about why it turns you on. She'll be imagining this and this will pre-trigger her receptiveness to seductive advances. For example, I have a trigger that drives me nuts... It's biting, specifically on the neck. It's an easy and accessible trigger and you know what? A lot of women have the same trigger. Play with it and have fun, gauge womens reactions to this. A lot of peoples issues is knowing when and how to move from phase to phase. If you need help I suggest buying Mystery Method by Mystery or The Natural by Richard La Ruina. La Ruina/Gambler gives good detail on how to transition and doesn't leave out a step. A lot of people leave out how to transition or don't give good enough advice on how to transition from each phase... If you can't transition you're like a fish out of water, you'll choke!! |
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| Author: | Gabriel Angelo [ Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: what to say after the whole openinng banter talk.. |
Admit it to break it. Admit that how when people meet the first thing they talk about is "where you from?" "what do you do?" Experiment with it and notice how the vibe the interaction changes...then it will be like talking to your little sister or family member where you never have conversational problem. |
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