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Author:  Garruk [ Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:30 am ]
Post subject:  Newbie here, meeting a girl tomorrow!
Alright, quick background info. I just started reading Neil Strauss' The Game yesterday. And, well, I'm extremely intrigued. I have zero previous knowledge with the game or anything pickup-related. My "top score" is around 13. I am 24 years old. I'm socially capable but more or less inhibited when it comes to hitting on the ladies.

Ten days ago I met a girl (let's call her Lucy) at a party and we talked with eachother during the entire evening. Nothing romantic, just talk, but we had a lot in common, she was smart and extremely good looking. I got her number before we said good bye. No real "moves" were ever made.

I texted Lucy yesterday and asked her out for a live music consert together with another (male) friend (oblivious to either pickup tactics or the game). Her reply was positive and she wants to go. However, she also noted that she only wants to meet me as a friend and nothing more and she didn't want to hurt me by mistake bla bla bla. I answered that I have no romantic interest and that I'm interested in someone else. Meeting just as friends is just fine.

Maybe not the best response from me but I just want to make my situation clear to you guys. Besides, it's half-truth. I am interested in another girl and I am not directly romantically interested with Lucy, more like personally interested which in turn might lead to something more. I hope that makes sense.

So I'm meeting her tomorrow and I need your help! What have I done right or wrong so far and what should I do to avoid getting stuck in the friend zone? What steps should I proceed with to make her attracted to me? Is it already too late? I know some of the basic techniques described in the first chapters of The Game but I decided to come here to get the opinions of real people.

Thanks for all help. :)
Author:  zexphyrium [ Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Newbie here, meeting a girl tomorrow!
I'll be truthful here, all these pickup stuff can't be learned overnight. If you think attracting women is like a computer algorithm where all you have to do is say the right word at the right time, then you're wrong. It's a lot more than that.

Trying to memorize routines or what to do for tomorrow's date will actually compromise it as learning how to delivery it naturally will take time and you might come off as try hard. Treat learning all this pickup stuff as learning a new language, you need commitment and hard work to start actually using this 'language' fluently.

My advice for you tomorrow is simple, just be yourself and don't feel too bad if it fails. Treat it as a learning experience and along the way, you'll have lots of eye-opening moments when comes to learning how to be a pickup artist.

My take on what you did wrong with her from what I read from your story? Inviting her to a live music concert and inviting another male friend along. First off, keep the date simple where you can have a genuine conversation with her, like the cafe or restaurant. Do you think you can talk to her properly in a live music concert? You are also actually putting a lot of pressure on her for this outing; this will only increase the chance of her flaking. And bringing another male friend along? That's a big no no, you want to be with the girl alone, not have a group of friends meetup. You're just streamlining yourself into the friendzone (or LJBF zone). There's a couple of other mistakes made but I'll skip that for now.

And by the way, welcome to this forum. Good luck for meet up tomorrow. Tell us your experience and we'll give feedback :)
Author:  Garruk [ Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Newbie here, meeting a girl tomorrow!
Thx Zex. I'm here not to learn the art of seduction in a day, just to her your opinions.

Update: She texted me this morning saying she "catched a cold yesterday and can't come with us this evening." So, bad excuse or not, I'm trying to figure out a smart response. Still going to the music concert though with my friend so it's still going to be a nice evening.
Author:  Arrow_Sheen [ Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Newbie here, meeting a girl tomorrow!
Write it off mate, she's set out she's not interested in anything more, and then come up with an excuse not to come as a friend.

In my opinion it's a dead end, your time will be best served reinvesting in a new girl.
Author:  jamesd31 [ Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Newbie here, meeting a girl tomorrow!
As mentioned, this isn't how the book "The Game" truly percieves everything, and especially not how society thought, we thought, of women, as algorithms. This also can NOT be learned overnight. It takes LOADS of practice. I can tell you a shit ton of methods and things to say and negs, etc. and I have only been doing this since like January, and I still suck at it as I don't practice it fully enough, I don't open enough, I don't game enough (too much AA to do it alone and when I do I neg to much, working on that).

Either way, as mentioned be yourself this time around. I would though, have a shit ton of fun, do NOT let her ruin yourself. You will easily DHV yourself if you can dance, enjoy the show with your bud and act (mostly) like she is not even there. I would even try talking / hitting on some girls at the concert. This will show her that you aren't interested in her, it DHV's you (so it helps you in regards to her wanting your attention) among other things.

Again as mentioned, I was surprised you kind of time bridged her (inviting her along) instead of actually asking her out. It would of been nice to have her out at some place you can talk, but you did enough talking at the "party" which honestly must of bored the shit out of her, since typical conversations are boring.

I would do what I said about the whole concert thing. Hell, maybe friendzone her and see what friends she has hanging around and work game on them once you discover it more?
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