PUA Forum :: The girls that don't do anything

Before qualifying, make sure your own icebreaker/opener and DHV is genuine and engaging enough that she wants to contribute something to the conversation. Your results will increase.

Try talk to her friends, if they all do the same thing move on, if not you the first girl had some other issue and its not your fault.

Your conversation is a very forced, unnatural stinted interview. Opening up about yourself and giving her something to latch onto is far better with the occasional question to stop it being a monologue. Just plow and work on your eye contact, kino etc. If she likes your aura, it doesn't fucking matter what you say, she will think everything you say is awesome. Tell her something you've noticed about her instead, girls love that shit.

First of all, ask less, talk more. Second, if you ask, get her attached to the topic you're asking about...

"Do you have a true passion? How does it make you feel when you're doing it?"

I've learned somewhere on the forum that the conversation is 90% me talking, 10% girl talking (or something like that).

I also DHV'ed with a mind-blowing card trick. They were all really impressed, but their impressed-ness quickly dropped to level zero by the time the trick was finished and the awkward silence came in. Even before then, one of the girls wanted me to read her palms (I already told them what I did for a living, but apparently my lifestyle was just so much more awesome than theirs because all they told me was that they go to whatever school in whatever state), so to rid the silence, I brought the palm reading thread back to the girl, but she didn't want to do it anymore. I egged her on (bad move!), but she still politely declined. That's when I brought up the question that I posted on this post to begin with.

Well I tend to not like bullshitting about things I don't care. And Justin Bieber and all the other people, puppies and kittens fall exatly into the "I don't care" cathegory. What I care about is the girl, so that's what I inquire about.

Of course I don't start off with asking about her passions that would be really weird, but it has to be something that provokes some emotional response. It was only an example. Your monster-cocking technique works because of this. It provokes an emotional response and it will also place a huge dick in her mind, I don't doubt that, and I don't even say it's wrong or anything like that. It's just not my style. I prefer things smooth, and elegant.

Author:	nrjose27 [ Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:05 pm ]
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No pickup is complete unless you start qualifying girls. But sometimes, whenever I qualify a girl, she's just so boring, as in, she doesn't do anything that'll make me more interested in her. A conversation with a girl I had goes as follows: Me: "You know, I've met a lot of interesting people here, but what makes you so unique?" Her: "Ummm, like what?" Me: "Can you sing?" Her: "No." Me: "Can you dance?" Her: "No." Me: "Can you do something?" Her: "No, I'm such a boring person." Me: "Well, it was nice meeting you." Whenever I find out that a girl doesn't do anything that stands out as her being interesting, I usually just drop the whole conversation and move on to the next group of people. But is there any hope for boring girls? Are they even worth the time to talk to?

Author:	.Sage. [ Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:00 am ]
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Usually, if they say they have nothing going for them, they are lying. Rarely do we think that the things we do could be special or intresting to other people. Especially when put on the spot. Remember that girls have Auto pilot responses , and you have to make them feel comfortable before theyll truely open up to you. Before qualifying, make sure your own icebreaker/opener and DHV is genuine and engaging enough that she wants to contribute something to the conversation. Your results will increase.

Author:	Mattr1984 [ Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:25 am ]
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Ugh, such a lame question and responses like that are usually chick talk for "fuck off". On rare occasions its because she's really shy and you can just be really nice, tell a story. Ask her if she likes the bar. Make sure you are smiling and really friendly. Most of the time it's because you approach sucked, she's having a bad day, whatever. Try talk to her friends, if they all do the same thing move on, if not you the first girl had some other issue and its not your fault. Almost never are they telling the truth. If they like you they will answer "no, but I do like..." Take some ownership.

Author:	In$tinct [ Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:14 am ]
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Why do you ask all those questions? "Can you sing?" How does this provoke the girl emotionally? It just doesn't get her emotionally involved in the conversation at all, of course you'll get replies like that. First of all, ask less, talk more. Second, if you ask, get her attached to the topic you're asking about... "Do you have a true passion? How does it make you feel when you're doing it?" Peace, In$tinct

Author:	carrycash [ Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:36 am ]
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Lolz that was all the problem of girls..

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Author:	Hunter_Foxe [ Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:29 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: The girls that don't do anything
Your conversation is a very forced, unnatural stinted interview. Opening up about yourself and giving her something to latch onto is far better with the occasional question to stop it being a monologue. Just plow and work on your eye contact, kino etc. If she likes your aura, it doesn't fucking matter what you say, she will think everything you say is awesome. Tell her something you've noticed about her instead, girls love that shit.

Author:	TheFury [ Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:26 pm ]
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Like others said, she just wasn't interested. Some girls are really boring even when they are interested; it has definitely happened to me multiple times where i closed some chick who i thought wasn't into me at all, but in general, it just means she isn't interested.

Author:	nrjose27 [ Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:55 pm ]
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Before I approached the set (3 set of girls, all sisters), I was observing their body language. They were all just sitting on this huge chair-like thing while watching what was going on around them like cats. It was weird that they were just observing their environment because an Indonesian-themed party was going on around them! What's there not to do at such an event where a lot of people are simply living life while trying out new things? But in this case, though, the sisters' body language read "we're so bored", so I took this as an opportunity to approach them and make something happen. Quote: Before qualifying, make sure your own icebreaker/opener and DHV is genuine and engaging enough that she wants to contribute something to the conversation. Your results will increase. I chose to do a situational opener. It was about these three hookahs being set up and how they were meant for display only rather than recreational use. I was going off on how pointless and misleading the whole idea was, and the girl was just agreeing with me. I guess I should've tried something harder... I also DHV'ed with a mind-blowing card trick. They were all really impressed, but their impressed-ness quickly dropped to level zero by the time the trick was finished and the awkward silence came in. Even before then, one of the girls wanted me to read her palms (I already told them what I did for a living, but apparently my lifestyle was just so much more awesome than theirs because all they told me was that they go to whatever school in whatever state), so to rid the silence, I brought the palm reading thread back to the girl, but she didn't want to do it anymore. I egged her on (bad move!), but she still politely declined. That's when I brought up the question that I posted on this post to begin with. Quote: Try talk to her friends, if they all do the same thing move on, if not you the first girl had some other issue and its not your fault. The sisters were just being plain with me. Like I said before, maybe my opener wasn't powerful enough to elicit positive reactions. If they were all sisters, their parents wouldn't be too far off, and my call was right: the parents took pictures of the four of us. Whereas I took the camera in like no big deal, the sisters were embarrassed. I guess these girls don't know how to enjoy themselves, so I said, "Well, it was nice meeting you all", shook their limp hands, and returned to my table of cousins and aunt and uncle. I actually had more fun with them than with the girls! Quote: Your conversation is a very forced, unnatural stinted interview. Opening up about yourself and giving her something to latch onto is far better with the occasional question to stop it being a monologue. Just plow and work on your eye contact, kino etc. If she likes your aura, it doesn't fucking matter what you say, she will think everything you say is awesome. Tell her something you've noticed about her instead, girls love that shit. Normally, I don't ask interview questions. If the interaction with the girl I'm talking to is very well-received, then I just ride the conversation smoothly and naturally; nothing seems forced. However, I feel like I need to do interview questions if and only if I feel like the girl is struggling to make the conversation work, which is why I asked her if she could sing or dance or whatever. But if that doesn't work, I can always talk more about myself until the girls are finally interested. In fact, that's what I'm currently working on right now: trying to make life a little more interesting so that others would want to join in, too. I absolutely have no problem with eye contact. It's the kino that I need to work on, for I've done very little during the course of the interaction. I did, however, tell the girls a bunch of stuff about myself: I'm a certified bartender looking for a lounge; I can sing and play the guitar; I can read palms; I'm studying nutritional sciences as my major and biochemistry as my minor; and I can do card tricks. And yet, these girls didn't even bother to ask questions about these. I felt like I was getting myself into a one-sided conversation. Quote: First of all, ask less, talk more. Second, if you ask, get her attached to the topic you're asking about... "Do you have a true passion? How does it make you feel when you're doing it?" I've learned somewhere on the forum that the conversation is 90% me talking, 10% girl talking (or something like that). Yeah, I'd be talking to the girl passionately about what I do, what my goals in life are, and other things, but I'd hit a brick wall if I just spewed out my life story while the girl rebuttals, "I'm such a boring person!" or "I don't know what my passions are!" Then again, is there a difference between girls being challenging and girls being boring?

Author:	In$tinct [ Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:11 am ]
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Quote: I've learned somewhere on the forum that the conversation is 90% me talking, 10% girl talking (or something like that). Where did you learn this BS? Also, you completely misunderstood what I told you. Instead of asking boring interview-like questions to the girls, engage them in a real conversation, and if you ask a question, ask about something that provokes emotions.

Author:	Monsignor Crisanto [ Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:23 am ]
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Quote: I also DHV'ed with a mind-blowing card trick. They were all really impressed, but their impressed-ness quickly dropped to level zero by the time the trick was finished and the awkward silence came in. Even before then, one of the girls wanted me to read her palms (I already told them what I did for a living, but apparently my lifestyle was just so much more awesome than theirs because all they told me was that they go to whatever school in whatever state), so to rid the silence, I brought the palm reading thread back to the girl, but she didn't want to do it anymore. I egged her on (bad move!), but she still politely declined. That's when I brought up the question that I posted on this post to begin with. This approach is too needy and too try hard. When you do a situational opener on girls within the 18-21 years old age range, anchor your multiple threads (wide rapport technique) on these topics: 1. Toy dogs and cute cat breeds 2. Puppies and kittens 3. Cake and ice cream 4. Justin Bieber, Johnny Depp, Brad Pitt 5. Cotton candies and balloons Do not go into gossip topics and girlie talk topics. Immediately turn the topics around into sexual, masculine talk. Like: 1. Which do you think has a bigger penis, the poodle or the chihuahua? Girl: Blah, blah, blah. You: So, do you prefer a big cock or a small cock? 2. Do you think it's highly embarrassing to have both puppies and kittens in your home? Girl: Blah, blah, blah. You: Well, we have a German Shepherd puppy who was dry humping our neighbor's kitten. He was huffing and puffing like this: hah, hah, hah. So the kitten went like this: meow, meow, meow. Display some nonverbal seduction techniques here. 3. Why do you think stag parties have girls coming out of big cakes? Girl: Blah, blah, blah. You: Or is it because most girls are sweet like cake and guys find sweet girls sexy? Girl: Blah, blah, blah. You: Will you find it sexy if I smudged on some cake icing on my cock? Just don't bring your dog along or he might play tug of war with my pecker if I did. 4. Oh so you love/hate Justin Bieber. Which guy do you think has a smaller cock: Justin Bieber, Johnny Depp or Brad Pitt? Girl: Blah, blah, blah. You: Oh. I heard Brad Pitt is hung like a horse but my cock is thicker and bigger about this size. Display some nonverbal seduction techniques here. 5. When you were a kid which do your preferred best: pink cotton candies or red balloons? Girl: I love pink/red/green colors. Blah, blah, blah. You: Girls who love pink/red/whatever colors give better blow jobs, did you know that? There's this cool study at the University of Vienna... When you eyefuck your target and get the eyefuck back (mirroring, positive compliance, indicator of sexual arousal) immediately proceed to masculine, sexual escalation. I'm not saying that you immediately grope her breast or grab her ass, I'm saying you sexually escalate in the right manner with proper calibration. If you made the girl feel trashy, you're done. Start touching her hair and give a compliment or close the distance some more and start whispering in her ear. Calibrate. Escalate. Calibrate. Escalate. Calibrate. Escalate. When she's horny enough, you can now easily isolate and bounce her to another place. If she isn't that horny, it will be a tall order to isolate her.

Author:	In$tinct [ Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:41 am ]
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Apart from that I don't brag about how big and thick my cock is I agree with everything else Hellhound wrote here. I do prefer however to first engage them emotionally and then sexually. They're more open that way. That's why I suggested talking about passions and stuff like that.

Author:	In$tinct [ Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:37 am ]
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Well I tend to not like bullshitting about things I don't care. And Justin Bieber and all the other people, puppies and kittens fall exatly into the "I don't care" cathegory. What I care about is the girl, so that's what I inquire about. Of course I don't start off with asking about her passions that would be really weird, but it has to be something that provokes some emotional response. It was only an example. Your monster-cocking technique works because of this. It provokes an emotional response and it will also place a huge dick in her mind, I don't doubt that, and I don't even say it's wrong or anything like that. It's just not my style. I prefer things smooth, and elegant.

Author:	In$tinct [ Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:34 am ]
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Haha agreed!

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