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Author:  C Jimmy [ Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Need some help for after the opener
Hi guys! 8)

Im kinda new in this world and i really like it but im having some problems :D
I had some approaches today but didnt knew what to say after my opener so i fucked up..

First there were 3 girls, i went to them and opened with a card trick (magic shit) they were really suprised then wanted to know how i did and bla bla.. ( fcourse i didnt tell them) but afterwards i didnt know what to say, said bye and left..

Then i just went to a girl who was alone said hi, asked what she was doing, were she was from etc but also that didnt work out..

hehe then i did 2more approaches with magic shit but i still didnt got results.. i just dont know what to say after.. how to get here number

would really appreciate it if someone has got some good advice( except bettering my english :D )
Author:  prime001 [ Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Need some help for after the opener
you need to read up on threads and open threads and stories that display DHV. That might help ya
Author:  C Jimmy [ Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Need some help for after the opener
Quote:
you need to read up on threads and open threads and stories that display DHV. That might help ya
Ok i dont know what dhv is but ill look for it :D Thanx buddy, hope i can help you in the future when i make progress
Author:  b1sgas [ Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Need some help for after the opener
m8, if u want to get in the game u need to learn the basics, DHV is a demonstration of higher value, its one of the most important terms in PUA world. Study hard and u'll get better. Good luck with your pick ups :)
Author:  worldrunner [ Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Need some help for after the opener
Imagine a girl approaching you, grabbing your hand, telling you how cute you look and once you are kind of hooked, she asks you for some favor.

Would you feel manipulated?

You show some magic tricks to them and then ask for their affection, how do you think they'll feel?


Now imagine if the girl asks you directly for a favor, and once you do the favor she grabs your hand and tells you how cute you are for helping her.

How would you feel?

Open with anything, and if the conversation starts to run dry show the magic trick... it will work much better.
Author:  Twisted soul [ Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Need some help for after the opener
I'm not a expert on pua... YET haha but I have a head start being a hypnotist myself what I would do Is ask how she is and what's she's been up to THEN wait for something so I might say so what you Been doing today before I unturupted you with my magic trick to wich she might reply "just with friends" I would act disinterested and then say in a jokey way "what are they like, I'm currently looking for a gf are they hot" but make it funny
Author:  The Scientist [ Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Need some help for after the opener
Ok I had exactly the same problem, I open 3 sets today with the jealous girlfriend opener, but I just had problem to procceed further the conversation after this. I mean I know about dhv and stuff but at that moment my mind just stuck...btw it was my first try to approach after read a couple of books...
Author:  Sublimed [ Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Need some help for after the opener
Hey dude,

First congrats on opening - this is often the hardest bit.

The thing about opening is once you have conversation going girls are going to give you points just for coming up, which is important to keep in mind. With that said, I've always got a follow up structure for this up until the hook point.

First, with your opener, use it to draw some sort of contrast. You want to immediately be making a judgement on the girls/comment - eg. with jealous girlfriend, "Oh, so you're one of those girls!" *smile* *tap on arm*. It's very dominant and alpha to be the one making judgements on everyone else and not being worried about going in their space.

Second, once you've done that, transition into a really simple question: how do you guys know each other?

Very easy line for this, and will almost certainly get a story. If they say "school" or something, respond, say "were you the teacher then and this was your student, wait, no, let me guess" *point to one* "you were the school bully".

Again, you're making judgements, eliciting stories and getting a bit of banter going. You can then easily transition into a story about your own friends, or press them for more info - tons of topics generally come out of that.

Hope that helps guys!

S.
Author:  Psych3r [ Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Need some help for after the opener
I agree if you are getting stuck moments after a successful open you need to study up on basics and foundation materials.

But the for sake of the OP's actual question. Just start with something simple and sincere like "Well it was great meeting you (all) but I have to run at the moment, but we should go _____ sometime (to the one you are interested in, but then look them all directly in the eye after your target), let me get your contact info (number/email whatev)."

That's a pretty direct and basic close that will get 50% success for a newbie pua. If you want to lock in a bit more, doubt your target gave you her actual number with a "cocky funny" response. Something like "so is this your magic trick? ... where you give me fake number?" Let her qualify to you, then if rapport is building well, call the number right away to test with a smirk and "we'll see about this!". It will get a laugh.

Good luck bro.
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