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Author:  CatLicker [ Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Understanding Negs
Hello,

Well. I'm a pretty confident guy that thought he's got it aaall figured out, but when I came to this site, well, I was wrong.. Waaay wrong..

I have lots and lots to learn. I don't have problem approaching or attracting women, I'm certainly not an AFC. I can approach and talk to women easily, but still, I have lots to learn. Here, I came across negs. And I'm here to ask you PUA's :)

How does Negs work ? I mean, how would this benefit me to put down a girl. Wouldn't she just think of how an asshole I am, and just hopefully FriendZone me ? Another thing, Ignoring her. I know that women want what they can't have, and that I have to act like I AM the prize not her but, what will put her to stick with me, and not just get to the ' next one ' if I push it a bit further. I know it works, but what would make this work ?

So recapitulating :
- Throwing Negs at her
- And Ignoring her

Thanks guys.
Author:  Heartnet [ Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Understanding Negs
negs come from behavior psychology, most under compliance, im pretty sure you already heard of dont be afraid of break report with client when you are selling things. Its the same way, only use it when some one is actually not complying with you.

*not complying doesnt mean she doesnt agreed with you. only she ignore you. NOT reject you.

so in the end, Neg, cocky funny, push-pull, break report and other terminology, is to correct the bad behavior you dont want.
Of course, that why Mystery add kino and compliment because once they actually react to you, you can reward them with kino or compliment or event sexual tension.

Alot of these basic theory are reused by RSD or other compagny in different way.

Hope its help you.
Cheers
Author:  CatLicker [ Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Understanding Negs
Ah I see now. Thanks Heartnet ! :)
Author:  worldrunner [ Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Understanding Negs
Mystery comes from a frame where girls naturally do not want to meet guys and in case they do they only want to meet the super alpha an leader of all. So because ordinary guys have absolutely no value to girls, you have to create the illusion to them that you are this super alpha leader of all men. Once you create this illusion she will loose her ability to make choices and take decisions and automatically will be drawn into you.

He believes that all girls (at least 10s and 9s to him) are like this witch of Snow white asking all the time to this mirror, mirror mirror who is the most popular and important person in the world? The mirror in this case are all the guys who just give them compliments. So when it comes 1 guy that gives her a Neg or ignores, in her mind immediately will think (Ohhh I'm not the most popular and important person in the world, I need to find out who is this guy and why did he challenged me) and then she will have no choice but to pay you attention and try to demonstrate to you that in fact she is the most popular and important person in the world.

In my opinion and experience that is a very sad and unhealthy way to look at the world, humans are much more complex and it is not correct to assume that all of us, 100% of the times we are driven only by our desire to be the most popular and important person in the world and that we have absolutely no control over that drive.
Anyway I find it very important to understand this frame in order to know how and when to use negs... In my experience I've blown out a lot of situations (and end up being a creepy weird guy) by using negs, when a genuine compliment would have get me way further in the interaction. Actually in real life during a cold pick up(guys who know the girl for a long time do not count) I've never seen a neg really working.
Author:  wingintyme [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Understanding Negs
Negs are a great idea if done correctly. Saying something like , "your nose curls when you smile" is canned and fucking stupid.

A decent neg could be something as simple as "did you go to ___ place tonight" HER "no". "did you go to y bar tonight" no.
"oh, I don't guess you get out much"

That can be used as a great first line also


That's a decent neg and it's original and there's no harm to it.

there's unlimited number of things you can do like that.
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