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| Author: | joker31 [ Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Struggling w/ Mid-Game |
Hey all, Decided to get back into this thing after a 2 year hiatus... Just looking for some things on how to improve my mid-game and need some MUST DO's. Here's the scope, I've gotten much better with openers and negs. I'm really getting over the approach anxiety (still needs work during day game). Often I combine the two with OMG openers and get instant reaction. I usually get to the point where after I open a set, introduce and I'll say "how do you guys all know each other?". I usually am able to do the Best Friend's Test and get a great response. Here's the problem, I have trouble continuing conversation. I also need to get much better at working towards isolation. So what are some MUST DO's to improve in these regards? |
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| Author: | jamesd31 [ Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Struggling w/ Mid-Game |
Do you take a seat and make yourself comfortable after you do this? I suggest after you openers are over, to stack - make a DHV response like "oh you remind me of the girls i met when i went to _______". If there are no seats, do the clever little stand up and twirl and chair-steal move that i love. After that, just have a normal convo with the rest of the group, neg the target here and there. Once IOI's show up, phase shift and isolate. The main thing is you must befriend the group. Show little interest in trying to pickup, hence why mid-game is just a normal convo - do not brag, but do boost DHV's. After a while you can do some ESP and progress and see what opens up for you. Slowly build in kino and the rest is golden. |
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| Author: | joker31 [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Struggling w/ Mid-Game |
James, These have all been at nightclubs without seats, so the seating thing doesn't really apply. I'm really good at getting a great reaction out of women though... I'll give you two examples, I went to a nightclub that my friend DJ's at. I went on the stage, there was a HB8.5 on sitting behind the DJ's (the one spot in the club with a seat). I can't remember the opening line, but I followed by saying to her "Hi I'm _________, nice to meet you", she shakes my hand and I say, "OMG, your hands are so small" She looks absolutely stunned. Her BF begins to come up as he saw the reaction, turns out he's one of the DJ's. Don't want to cause any conflict as he's probably friends with mine. So I introduce myself and tell him "they're killing it tonight" to which he says thanks. And i eject. 5 minutes later, a group of 3 come up. 1 guy, 2 girls. Go up to an HB8 and say "OMG, i love the outfit, it looks nice" Introduce myself, and also tell her how small her hands are... same reaction as above. I quickly get into a cold-reading bit about an index/ring finger size in relation to growing up with more with estrogen/testosterone. She shit-tests me after, which i could have done a better job passing. Point is, I get stuck after this. But i think you've helped me with my issue, the "stacking" portion. Honestly, had no idea what it was until you posted that. I think I get what I need to do, thanks bud |
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| Author: | jamesd31 [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Struggling w/ Mid-Game |
No problem and good luck. |
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