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Author:  vlad99 [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:39 pm ]
Post subject:  is this a good routine ?
In a situation where there are more than 1 hb)
...(openers)(after the opener, name exchange)
PUA: So, are you going to tell me your name or do i have to make up one for you?
HB: haha, her name.
Target HB: her name.
PUA(looking at the target) : by the way, nice shoes;
target HB : oh,thank you!
PUA: haha, no,not your, mines, but i suppose yours are nice too. You girls are so selfish....
HB : no we are not, bla bla;
PUA: You are friends, like best friens? becouse,when i said you are elfish you made the same facial expression.
HB: Yes, we are.
PUA: Oh i knew it,..... now i dont know how to introduce exactly the bf est but it is ok till now ? please answer me.

P.S. I'm new to the forum, and sorry for my mistakes.
Author:  Arellius [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: is this a good routine ?
Hi whatsup..

The routine for the facial expression thing has been around for a while, 10+ years perhaps.
When you want to know something simple like their names, you can just introduce yourself and say; ''What's yours ?''

Furthermore, you had just met someone and you're calling them selfish. It all depends on how you portray yourself and the delivery of it all, however I would leave negs/teases out the first 5 minutes and get to know them, establish a comfortable baseline, then when you get them laughing at positive jokes then you can tease them a little, but still no harsh negs.

Hope it helps :)
Author:  vlad99 [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: is this a good routine ?
Thx, its really useful what you said, and,you are right, i was saying "selfih" in a funny way, i prefear daytime, and girsl dont have so much time to talk on the street, untill now i din only 2-3 aproaches, and i finished only one number close, cany anyone tell me a good daytime opener ? I use the who do you think that lies more....but with a good delivery.
Author:  Arellius [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: is this a good routine ?
Glad its of use to you :)

Allow me to rescue you right now...
''Who Lies More'' is quiet old and hardly gets used nowadays. Todays Pickup models have advanced a hell of a lot since that time.

A good Daytime opener; ''Hi, you look cute as hell and I had to come and meet you...''
Women prefer you be more straight forward during the day. Checkout Andy Yosha and Yad on YouTube on lots of cool Daygame stuff 8)
Author:  vlad99 [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: is this a good routine ?
but this would be direct game.... it is not good the indirect daygame ?
Author:  Arellius [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: is this a good routine ?
Indirect Game is oke, when you know how to use and convey it..
If your just starting Pickup I would suggest to try Direct for a while, this way you build up experience and a more sexual charisma which makes Indirect Game A little easier*
Author:  vlad99 [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: is this a good routine ?
my town is kind of small, and if i go direct to a girl she will be like: this guy is creepy,need to escape from him...
indirect works much better, and for direct game you need a big initial dhv, so she need to like you in the first moment when she sees you....a big initial dhv that i don't havo.
These are the reasons why i like more indirect game.
Im reading now the rules of the game and i want to start this 30 days exercise. But, no one knows a good daygame opener ?

that is what i use :

PUA-Hi, quick question, I had an argue with one of my friends and we couldn’t find a solution, who do you think lies more, mens or womens ?
HBS- Some shit like : of course that mens … ( you can neg them by making them sexist c&f way )
PUA- I was thinking that, womens , don’t lie less, they just lie better , so no one see the lie, because we all know womens lies better right ?
HBS-Another shitty things that you don’t care.
PUA- Now lets say, how you say that mens lie more ,but who do you think that cheat more ?
HBS- Blabla..
PUA- If they said that mens cheat more you ask them if they never cheated, otherwise you ask them the same thing but with a neg in it like :oooh so you cheated before right ? so you lied….
HBS- Blabla..

P.S.Now I can go on the conversation or just skip to some dhv routines…


need an opinion :D
Author:  vlad99 [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: is this a good routine ?
i know this is mid game topic, but please rate my opener....its in my last post
Author:  puaninja [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:29 pm ]
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Quote:
i know this is mid game topic, but please rate my opener....its in my last post
Need an opinion about your opinion opener do ya? That would actually make a good opener!

Go up to a girl and ask her opinion on what she would think of a guy who comes up to her asking her opinion about who she thinks lies more between men and women, when he's just trying to hit on them. She wouldn't have to actually answer the men or women thing, but instead give tell you what she thinks of that pick up line. I think that'd be funny, because as she thinks about it and tells you her opinion, she'll realize that you are basically doing the same thing, albeit indirectly. Lolz, I gotta' try this next sarge!
Author:  vlad99 [ Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: is this a good routine ?
yes,yes i nd eed and not from a hb, from a pua so please...
Author:  worldrunner [ Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: is this a good routine ?
Quote:
my town is kind of small, and if i go direct to a girl she will be like: this guy is creepy,need to escape from him...
indirect works much better, and for direct game you need a big initial dhv, so she need to like you in the first moment when she sees you....a big initial dhv that i don't havo.
These are the reasons why i like more indirect game.
Im reading now the rules of the game and i want to start this 30 days exercise. But, no one knows a good daygame opener ?

I life also in a small town and "Indirect Game" unless you execute it perfectly or you only ask for directions and stuff then is very very creepy.
There is nothing creepy about being honest with a girl and telling that you want to talk to her because you find her attractive, cute, interesting, etc.
Even if they reject you at the moment which is very probable, they'll appreciate your compliment and honesty, and you'll gain some trust for further times you see them...

Now if you ask a silly question that you do not care about the answers and you change topics like crazy and you talk nonsense... yes you'll stay longer in the set, they might be kind of entertained and a bit puzzled, and if you are good enough you can trick them into giving them a phone number and even steal a kiss from them, but once you leave you'll become the weird guy who just talks randomness... I was stupid enough to start with indirect and yeah very fast I started to gain fake success and started to impress other guys... But after leaving the set, or next days girls wanted to ignore me completely or to use me as the entertainer of the group and make fun of me.

I promise there is nothing wrong and creepy by being a man and showing it by telling girls that they look attractive... when I was doing indirect long time ago girls that I opened before, use to hide from me...
Now with direct even if they rejected me harsh on the first time, they sometimes come to talk to me if they see me again. IF they do not accept your invitation at the moment it doesn't mean that they'll never talk to you again...

Big initial HV...(thinking about that BS is what lowers your HV)
In direct game girls will reject you because:
1 they are in a relationship or 2 they are shy and scared at the moment. Just be cool with their rejection and you'll gain a lot, for future times you see them.

Are you able to listen? are you able and willing to understand another person?
Are you able to make someone smile? Are you able to make someone trust you? Are you able to make someone feel comfortable? Are you able to make someone feel unique? Can you share secrets and keep secrets?
My guess is that you can and that is very high value.
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