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Author:  dumdum85 [ Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:19 am ]
Post subject:  HB8 extremely offended by text opener...how to proceed?
Met girl at gym. Opened by asking what she was doing today. She said elliptical. I went ok rant about how elliptical is easiest exercise in gym. She makes herself available to me afrer she is done. Number close.

My text: hey...its name from the gym. Meet me for a drink tomorrow. I guarantee more excercise than the elliptical...

Her response: well name, from the gym, I probably would have met yoy for drinks...if you haven't followed up that interaction with a text that was so suggestice and disrespectful. I am not that type of girl and I am pretty sure that I didn't do anything to imply that I was. So thanks for yhe invitation, but I don't make it a habit of hanging out with guys who are blatantly rude to me.

I haven't responded. But feel I have her hamster squirming. How to proceed?
Author:  Czech. [ Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:30 am ]
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My text: hey...its name from the gym. Meet me for a drink tomorrow. I guarantee more excercise than the elliptical...
Haha that was a great text! Not sure why she took it so rudely..

I'd probably ignore it. If she's interested at all she'll text you.
Author:  AbdouRetro [ Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:52 am ]
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I think maintaining ground is your best option.
Try saying something within the lines of "I don't think I was rude, but regardless of that, if you can't take a simple joke then you're really not my type. I won't be enjoying my drinks."
Author:  puaninja [ Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:03 pm ]
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I really don't understand why guys think that getting all sexual with women they don't know yet actually works. Maybe it works on sluts, skanks, and skags, but respectable women simply won't respond favorably to that shit. Most women I've ever known would think a guy is a creep for texting something like that. Then I hear people on here saying to get sexual with the woman right away and I truly wonder what planet they live on, or what type of women they are talking to.

The main problem with that is that it's like you are trying to skip ahead to the finish line. You're hoping that you can send her one text that is sexual and she'll respond with an IOI, then you'll know she's primed for a f-close on the first date. But it don't work like that. You have to FIRST establish trust and comfort, then build rapport and escalate with kino. That's how it's done. That will work on skanks as well as respectable girls, whereas the overtly sexual stuff will only work on sluts and ugly broads.
Author:  Ilustrado [ Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:30 pm ]
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I really don't understand why guys think that getting all sexual with women they don't know yet actually works. Maybe it works on sluts, skanks, and skags, but respectable women simply won't respond favorably to that shit. Most women I've ever known would think a guy is a creep for texting something like that. Then I hear people on here saying to get sexual with the woman right away and I truly wonder what planet they live on, or what type of women they are talking to.

The main problem with that is that it's like you are trying to skip ahead to the finish line. You're hoping that you can send her one text that is sexual and she'll respond with an IOI, then you'll know she's primed for a f-close on the first date. But it don't work like that. You have to FIRST establish trust and comfort, then build rapport and escalate with kino. That's how it's done. That will work on skanks as well as respectable girls, whereas the overtly sexual stuff will only work on sluts and ugly broads.
Couldn't agree more. With an ugly or slutty girl an opener like that might have worked, but with most women they'll just think you're a creep for being so forward without even knowing them; it suggests that the only thing you want from her is sex, since you don't actually know what she's like as a person yet and you're already willing to fuck her.

You skipped out comfort and rapport building so her ASD came straight into play; if you'd just invited her out she would have probably said yes. Then you could've built comfort when you were with her and maybe even got a SNL under a different pretense - for example: "Hey why don't you come back to mine for a coffee and I'll show you this CD I just bought, you wont be able to stay for long though because I have work in the morning" - That way she'd not feel like a slut because "it just happened" and she just went to "listen to a CD".

Sub-communicate a sexual vibe, don't just tell her that you're going to fuck her
Author:  JamesWatson31 [ Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:31 pm ]
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The cocky funny approach is hard to do with text game. It's not our fault but women rarely seem to understand a joke unless we put a lol or a smylie after everything we write!

Face to face she may have been more receptive.

I text purely to arrange dates and I keep these to a minimum when possible.

Women love to chat online and text to their friends about nothing much of any importance.

Let them yap and yap and you just concentrate on getting the dates:)
Author:  puaninja [ Fri Sep 21, 2012 4:23 pm ]
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But saying we can do "other" excercises together, is not even cocky funny. It's just a straight up AFC creeper line, certain to destroy any hopes you might have had with a non-slutty girl. Damn right it brings up her ASD shield. Good luck getting past that!

I play chess and in the game of chess you can't rush your strategy. You have to slow play it. We all know the objective is to mate the king, but we have to take out some pawns first, defend our own pieces, then slowly close in with a mating web. The four move "fools mate" is never attempted nor does it work at a high level tournament. Because experienced players know that that shit is bush league and is something only rookies would do. I guess what I'm saying is don't do rookie moves.
Author:  SharkKing [ Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:59 pm ]
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As a newb here, i don't see the way how u could repair that, but what i'd do is text her with a funny thing, about your last text. Dunno if that helps, that was a direct hit.
Author:  JamesWatson31 [ Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:14 pm ]
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I play chess too and I agree with your points but IMO the OP was trying to be a little funny/cocky but it didn't come over very successfully:)
Author:  lukeyx [ Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:31 pm ]
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The cocky funny approach is hard to do with text game. It's not our fault but women rarely seem to understand a joke unless we put a lol or a smylie after everything we write!

Face to face she may have been more receptive.
this is correct.

You can either do two things from here, depending on whether you care on losing her or not.

if you dont care, blame her for being so hot and that its her fault for sending the text, the chances of her texting back are not big, but u have a decent chance of getting in if she does. This also depends on how sexual u was when u got her number too though.

If you do care, you can play it safe by saying 'i was on about grabbing x drink and doing y exercise, i have no idea whats running through your mind, naughty'. This would be a drink u have at the gym and a exercise you do.

Both replies will not guarantee a text back, and the original text isn't to easy to revive from, stuff like this should only be said face to face really.
Author:  Ilustrado [ Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:33 pm ]
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This is something that happened today that illustrates why being this forward without building comfort is a terrible idea, unless she's easy:
(Note, this guy jon is someone that me and this girl I fclosed met)

http://i47.tinypic.com/20sac1g.png

http://i45.tinypic.com/2q9vz4h.png


I realize that what you said was far more sophisticated than this idiocy, and no where near as forward, but the point is you have to build a connection with most girls before explicitly implying you want to have sex with them. If it were as easy as that, everyone would be getting laid.

I think the best route to take is what Lukey suggested; just act as if you were joking with her.
Author:  puaninja [ Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:34 pm ]
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It was a cocky/funny joke of a sexual nature. The first part is good, the second part is not. Doing damage control, I honestly don't know. I'd say slow play it. She goes to the same gym after all. Then maybe go up to her and apologize for coming across as an ass and tell her that you try to be funny and write stupid stuff in texts sometime, then show her another side of you that is non-sexual, but still appealing.
Author:  IAmMaynardJamesKeenan [ Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:42 pm ]
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I think this is the last time you hear of her. It will be awkward when you two cross ways in the gym, I tell you that!
Insinuating you two are going to have sex doesn't seem funny to me.. it might be due to my sense of humor.

Also, don't listen to the guy who said this is a great text. This might be funny to the outside observer, but what matter is, was it funny to her?
Author:  puaninja [ Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:27 pm ]
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Yea, was it funny to HER? No, obviously. You have to read girls before saying or writing anything to them that could be used against you. If she's slutty, you can take your liberties with the crude jokes. If she's all uptight and whatnot, then you should know this girl is not going to respond to anything crass or crude.
Author:  pumpington [ Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: HB8 extremely offended by text opener...how to proceed?
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Met girl at gym. Opened by asking what she was doing today. She said elliptical. I went ok rant about how elliptical is easiest exercise in gym. She makes herself available to me afrer she is done. Number close.

My text: hey...its name from the gym. Meet me for a drink tomorrow. I guarantee more excercise than the elliptical...

Her response: well name, from the gym, I probably would have met yoy for drinks...if you haven't followed up that interaction with a text that was so suggestice and disrespectful. I am not that type of girl and I am pretty sure that I didn't do anything to imply that I was. So thanks for yhe invitation, but I don't make it a habit of hanging out with guys who are blatantly rude to me.

I haven't responded. But feel I have her hamster squirming. How to proceed?
it's just asd, hold your frame, stay congruent, pass the shit test etc.

''really? you would have met me for a drink but you've been dis-respected? when exactly did I dis-respect you? you're not that type of girl? what type of girl do you believe I am implying you to be? one that has a sense of humor?... can't believe I even asked you out... so weird''

also please don't even take advice from the guys in this thread trying to advise you to be more reactive, this is pretty normal and a girl doesn't have to be ''slutty'' to accept these sort of advances, she simply has to be more into you, she might even just be reacting this way as an excuse because she doesn't want to see you and didn't like your approach at the gym, and now that she's safe behind her phone she can tell you off in safety to get a little ego boost, just don't take her shit, stay certain of yourself and roll with it without becoming too rude or losing your cool, just don't seek her approval on this one, you've done nothing wrong that deserves an apology or anything, she's just over-reacting, call her out on it, and if she's actually interested the situation will re-frame
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