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| Author: | VanPelt [ Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Hi everyone :) can you help a newbie in the theory? |
Hi saturay afternoom i'm meeting with a beautiful girl (friend of friends) for a coffe or a drink, i knew her a bit before but 1 month ago she finished a relationship after 3 years (she decided to stop it), i heard that and asked her out for a coffe and she said yes to be honest i don't wanna be in a relationship with her since i will be leaving italy end of the month and be back in uk where i live and work in the winter time, i just want to see if its ok with her to have sex, yeah i like her i'd probably be in a relationship with her but my plans about traveling don't allow it, so my idea is to just try and have sex with her. now i'm not exactly a newbie at dating girls because i've worked in beaches (the guy that shows you your umbrella on the beach) for many years now (dating girls in the evening was waaaaay easier because they were tourists), but this will be different, i feel i should behave in a certain way because the circumnstances i just explained are those. i know this is a very open question, but, how should i behave? |
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| Author: | AFC_Datik [ Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:21 pm ] |
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How you should behave? Well, you should be yourself, stay positive and confident and do what has worked for you in the past. Perhaps you can be a bit more specific. Is there a specific thing that troubles you when dealing with the ladies? Or is there something specific in this situation that's throwing you off a bit? Or maybe you just don't know a way to stablish a sexual relation in a short time? Girls coming out of long-term relationships usually go to the other extreme when they break up and start hooking up and having a lot of casual sex, but of course it can vary. |
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| Author: | VanPelt [ Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:24 pm ] |
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Quote: How you should behave? Well, you should be yourself, stay positive and confident and do what has worked for you in the past.
i can smile, probably lack of topics troubles me a lot of the times because i like philosophy and concepts and she is very down to earth and very social too, i'd like to entertain her!
Perhaps you can be a bit more specific. Is there a specific thing that troubles you when dealing with the ladies? Or is there something specific in this situation that's throwing you off a bit? |
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| Author: | AFC_Datik [ Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:39 pm ] |
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Quote: Quote: How you should behave? Well, you should be yourself, stay positive and confident and do what has worked for you in the past.
i can smile, probably lack of arguments troubles me a lot of the times because i like philosophy and concepts and she is very down to earth and very social too, i'd like to entertain her!Perhaps you can be a bit more specific. Is there a specific thing that troubles you when dealing with the ladies? Or is there something specific in this situation that's throwing you off a bit? The more important thing to keep in mind is that you have to show her a good time, but not by being an enterteiner (a dancing monkey) but by having her constantly laugh. 1. Like you, I like to get into deep philosophical/political/social issues because that's just part of what I am. At the same time, I realize that a lot of people don't really get into this stuff, specially not at clubs where they just want to relax and have a good time. However, women want to understand and see your world and what you are into, it shows confidence as you do what you like, not what other people expect you too. Showing a women your passion is a very underutilized form of seduction. You can still talk to her about philosophy, but make sure you aren't being a prick about it. That means being positve, being light-hearted, having the confidence to speak about this stuff with passion and showing that, and at the same time making sure it's not a one-sided conversation (Ie. she has to participate in it, it can't be just a lecture of your intelect, she has to feel that she is challenged and can take an actual role which you can then reward). However, there is also the posibility that she won't be into that at all. If that's the case, don't panic and just move on. I'm into politics and I tended to assume everyone would just get bored as fuck if I started talking about it, but I shed that. Today I actually had a convo over a girl about it, but by being confident about it, and being light-hearted, I could still have her laughing and be intellectually invested at the same time. 2. You also need to be light-hearted enough to be able to speak about a variety of topics that aren't just complex or deep. You need to be able to talk about whatever and still be fun. It's generally a must-do to multi-thread, that is the ability to be speaking at the same time of many subjects and topics. Perhaps with your philosophy stuff you can create deep rapport. TylerDurden usually thinks that that works great, but it's always better to have wide and deep rapport, which means not only talking about one thing. This will also ensure that the interaction won't die down once the topic of conversation has been exhausted. 3. Keep in mind that you can talk about whatever, and it can still be entertaining just as long as you can convey the right vibes. What's important in seduction is that you don't need to rationally convince a women to be with you, but you have to let her feel a certain way by showing you certain attributes, and those attributes can't be told or argued, they must be shown. 4. Seen as you are probably in comfort zone already (she agreed to go out with you), you could try to create rapport and conveying value by doing a psychological routine about herself. You could try doing the cube for example. That's a good way to bridge two people together who are already comfortable to some degree. Let us know how it went either way! |
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| Author: | VanPelt [ Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:36 am ] |
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Quote: Quote: Quote: How you should behave? Well, you should be yourself, stay positive and confident and do what has worked for you in the past.
i can smile, probably lack of arguments troubles me a lot of the times because i like philosophy and concepts and she is very down to earth and very social too, i'd like to entertain her!Perhaps you can be a bit more specific. Is there a specific thing that troubles you when dealing with the ladies? Or is there something specific in this situation that's throwing you off a bit? The more important thing to keep in mind is that you have to show her a good time, but not by being an enterteiner (a dancing monkey) but by having her constantly laugh. 1. Like you, I like to get into deep philosophical/political/social issues because that's just part of what I am. At the same time, I realize that a lot of people don't really get into this stuff, specially not at clubs where they just want to relax and have a good time. However, women want to understand and see your world and what you are into, it shows confidence as you do what you like, not what other people expect you too. Showing a women your passion is a very underutilized form of seduction. You can still talk to her about philosophy, but make sure you aren't being a prick about it. That means being positve, being light-hearted, having the confidence to speak about this stuff with passion and showing that, and at the same time making sure it's not a one-sided conversation (Ie. she has to participate in it, it can't be just a lecture of your intelect, she has to feel that she is challenged and can take an actual role which you can then reward). However, there is also the posibility that she won't be into that at all. If that's the case, don't panic and just move on. I'm into politics and I tended to assume everyone would just get bored as fuck if I started talking about it, but I shed that. Today I actually had a convo over a girl about it, but by being confident about it, and being light-hearted, I could still have her laughing and be intellectually invested at the same time. 2. You also need to be light-hearted enough to be able to speak about a variety of topics that aren't just complex or deep. You need to be able to talk about whatever and still be fun. It's generally a must-do to multi-thread, that is the ability to be speaking at the same time of many subjects and topics. Perhaps with your philosophy stuff you can create deep rapport. TylerDurden usually thinks that that works great, but it's always better to have wide and deep rapport, which means not only talking about one thing. This will also ensure that the interaction won't die down once the topic of conversation has been exhausted. 3. Keep in mind that you can talk about whatever, and it can still be entertaining just as long as you can convey the right vibes. What's important in seduction is that you don't need to rationally convince a women to be with you, but you have to let her feel a certain way by showing you certain attributes, and those attributes can't be told or argued, they must be shown. 4. Seen as you are probably in comfort zone already (she agreed to go out with you), you could try to create rapport and conveying value by doing a psychological routine about herself. You could try doing the cube for example. That's a good way to bridge two people together who are already comfortable to some degree. Let us know how it went either way! so i met her, she was quite good looking, my prediction about the lack of argument was right so i prepared myself to talk whatever bullshit to avoid awkward silence, it wasn't too bad, we had a coffe, we talked about her and me, without too much enthusiasm tho, i was a good listener aniway, i paid attention to touch her arm in the good bye kiss, probably it wasn't too bad because the same evening i wrote her "hey i want to meet you again!" she said "yeah let me know when" it could have been way better, but yet way worse, i'm happy aniway because i managed to do to the next round |
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