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Author:  theRocker [ Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:14 am ]
Post subject:  How to react when she burns your routine?
So i was in this club with my drink and suddenly 2 gilrs on the other side of the table were looking at me.. I smiled and they smiled to me as well.. I waited some minutes, then i went there to open them..
They were face to the table.. I came close to the obstacle, and asked to the barman to put more ice in my drink.. So now I had my position and i could open.

theRocker: hey!
They didn't turn. Again.
theRocker: hi! How are you?
HB: fine!
theRocker: it's a great bar here! Isn't it?

So we started speaking about small talks.. Both with the obstacle and with the target.. We talked about how long we have been in this city, about our nationalities and staff like that.. Then i took the next step.

theRocker: are you very close friends?
HBs: yes.
theRocker: i could say that! I see it!..
Smiles..

So i was in.. The obstacle moved a step back to other friends.. And it was time to use the heavy guns with the terget. I decided to use the magic spells routine.. So I told the story of my friend falling in love with a girl after she performed a magic spell on him.. Unfortunately my voice started fuckin vibrating..

theRocker: i say that because i never believed in magic spells.. But then something amazing happened to me.. Give me your hands..
HB: no.
theRocker: come on.. I'm not a bad boy..

But nothing.. i couldn't go on.. i didn't know how to react.. so 1 minute later i was telling "nice to have met you.. Bye.."

I know that i forgot to neg her!! I also know i had to perform the routine without trembling my voice.. And probably i had not to go away just because of one IOD.. she seemed to be interested in me before this IOD.. But i didn't know what i could tell her after she didn't respond to my routine..

any opinion?
Author:  Anivia [ Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:56 am ]
Post subject: 
Quote:
theRocker: hey!
They didn't turn. Again.
theRocker: hi! How are you?
HB: fine!
theRocker: it's a great bar here! Isn't it?
Where is your material? This is what every AFC does.
Quote:
So we started speaking about small talks.. Both with the obstacle and with the target.. We talked about how long we have been in this city, about our nationalities and staff like that.. Then i took the next step.
This is comfort building, you need to start with ATTRACTION. Why would she speak to you without attraction? She got bored of you.

Go back to your material and stick to it, but creds for opening, good job.
Author:  BassOpens [ Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:59 am ]
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It's sometimes ok to not follow the script.

In your case I feel like you did a good approach, you reached social hookpoint, and locked well within the table but you didn't have social proof, and probly didn't generate much attraction on your target either.

In my little experience, when this kind of things happen It's because I either failed to build attraction and used a routine that involved kino too soon ( kino escalation was NOT smooth) or the girl is more into striaight forward guys; guys that use direct game...

Dunno, exactly how good was the interaction, if there were any more IOI,s, or what else did you talk about, but kinda seems to me that you could have used a more direct approach. But then how could you have known? :P

Reading you the moment you tried using that spell routine makes me think of all the things I would have said or done, One of them is I'd have neggd her or gone to another routine or played the "Oh so you're that kind of girl huh?...." line...

But I'd have to be on your shoes...

I know what it feels when the routine does not go as planned but its a chance for you to learn :)

Take it as that! When it happens to me, I learn too :)
Author:  pumpington [ Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:19 am ]
Post subject: 
bring more value and approach more women, you will improve
Author:  Xilixion [ Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:16 am ]
Post subject: 
Quote:
Quote:
theRocker: hey!
They didn't turn. Again.
theRocker: hi! How are you?
HB: fine!
theRocker: it's a great bar here! Isn't it?
Where is your material? This is what every AFC does.
Quote:
So we started speaking about small talks.. Both with the obstacle and with the target.. We talked about how long we have been in this city, about our nationalities and staff like that.. Then i took the next step.
This is comfort building, you need to start with ATTRACTION. Why would she speak to you without attraction? She got bored of you.

Go back to your material and stick to it, but creds for opening, good job.
How could he have built attraction? By negging?
Author:  Tr@veler [ Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:40 pm ]
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How to react? You don't. This was a compliance test you did (give me your hand), and she didn't comply. You either punish with a tease or you don't react at all and ignore her non compliance and move on to the next topic.

Also, as others said, bring more value to the conversation. Make observations about her style, anything. Just talk what you want to talk about. If she doesn't want to talk, move on from her.
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