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Author:  Dexter_of_Devon [ Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:16 am ]
Post subject:  Need advice on the ongoing pickup of my ex's bestfriend
Hi there everyone,
I have just joined the community and am just looking for a bit of advice on something. 
I've been studying to become a PUA and been putting my tactics into practice recently, and they've been working pretty well as I used to be a soft, one-itis pushover with girls!

However there is one girl (who happens to be my ex-gf's best mate and a flirty friend of mine) and who, for some unknown reason, I really really want to sleep with, I'm working on it and need some advice on what to do next. 

Here's the outline,
I'm 20, in the military, a bit wild and crazy, was only with my ex (her best friend) for about 2 months, she's 19, a horsy jockey girl who like me is pretty crazy and not saying she's a slut but she's slept with a fair few guys! LOL! 
Therefore I know she will be an incredible shag, you can just tell sometimes, and she happens to have the best body I've ever seen! Maybe thats why I have to sleep with her, guys and their basic instincts huh!? ;D

Anyway me and her get on pretty well, really well actually, and if I'm honest, I really don't give a fuck what my ex thinks! 
I've been getting IOI's from this girl for a little while now, and after me and her met up last weekend while she was down from her jockying, I can tell something can definitely happen here. 
While we were out on sunday I started running some routines on her, 1-10 number trick etc, when we got lunch she was asking things like 'what do you look for in a gf?' and 'how's your love life going?' and making little comments like I looked hot in my aviators, my car is a sex wagon etc etc and I replied with cocky funny sentences most the time. After we went back to her mums farm where she stays while down from working in Wiltshire, she showed me around the whole place, introduced me to her family (we are good friends but I haven't met her family before) and then she showed me the 'shed' garden house thing she used to live in next to the house as she didn't get on with her stepdad. 
In there I did the cube on her, then tried some soul gazing on the bed, but every time we were getting a soul gazing connection she would giggle to try and distract it, we chatted on the bed for ages, even after all the IOI's, and her resting her legs on me while we chatted etc etc I didn't go in for the close as I knew she had to drive back to Wiltshire in a few minutes (or maybe I was scared of being rejected!?) and something inside was saying she won't do it! (the annoying voice in my head I need to stub out!)
I didn't go for the kiss close version of soul gazing as it wasn't the time, she's a bit of a sceptic with stuff like that so I wanted to get her comfortable with it all first. 
We hugged, said goodbye and all that boring AFC shit, and to be honest I'd been cocky-funny all day so I sent her a text saying how I could have so easily kissed her earlier but chose not to as I didn't want to make it to easy for her, she found it funny and we've been keeping in contact texting with some flirty/cocky lines thrown in to keep her intrigued. 
I am meant to be going up to stay with her in 2 weekends time up in Wiltshire and, although it sounds like I've pretty much sorted this anyway, I want some advice on how I should play it when I see her next? I know she doesn't like soppy, needy guys who say 'I love you' and all that shit as se told me so how should I play it?
I'm going away soon on deployment so I need to act pretty fast and I really have to sleep with this girl, even if I don't have her as a girlfriend! I must have her!
Anyway she's a pretty wild, funny, young, horsy type girl who is a great laugh but not snobby and in some ways, not very girly, what do I need to do next to get in this girls pants without her feeling bad for my ex (her best mate) 
Any ideas??

P.S she knows I'm a bit of a player by the way now, she's picked up on that but she likes it! Says my new blond highlighted hair and ear rings look hot! LOL
And if anyone wants to go sarging in the north Devon area let me know! :wink: [/list]
Author:  JackBNimble [ Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:44 am ]
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First of all, if everything I understand about soul gazing is correct, you definitely shouldn't be using it in a hit it and quit it situation. Not as bad as October Man though, I suppose.

The whole point of soul gazing is to intensify a bond. If you want to nail her, do it without leaving her emotional baggage.

soul-gazing-vt6551.html

Leave her better than you found her.

Secondly, all you need to do is escalate. Don't even talk. Lock eye contact, move in close, and kino. Nature will do the rest.

I think you're either an asshole or an idiot for even trying that. Only reason I'm giving you advice is to hopefully minimize the damage you might do.[/i]
Author:  Dexter_of_Devon [ Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:50 am ]
Post subject: 
Quote:
First of all, if everything I understand about soul gazing is correct, you definitely shouldn't be using it in a hit it and quit it situation. Not as bad as October Man though, I suppose.

The whole point of soul gazing is to intensify a bond. If you want to nail her, do it without leaving her emotional baggage.

Leave her better than you found her.

Secondly, all you need to do is escalate. Don't even talk. Lock eye contact, move in close, and kino. Nature will do the rest.

I think you're either an asshole or an idiot for even trying that. Only reason I'm giving you advice is to hopefully minimize the damage you might do.[/i]
Oh yeah I know soul gazing creates an emotional bond don't get me wrong. I told her when we were in the shed that that was the idea of doing it, I merely wanted to create a deeper bond and connection between us because trust me I would do anything to have this girl as my girlfriend! She's incredible, sexy, funny and outgoing! But she's already said with her job as busy as it is she doesn't have the time for a boyfriend at the moment which is why I'm playing it open at the moment. 
So maybe I'm just creating a bond between us which may later lead to something, I want to sleep with her to just get the awkwardness of it out the way so I can concentrate on deeper ground working, I may be a manipulative little fucker but I'm not an asshole, every gf I've had has said how nice I've treated them no matter how they feel after and thats not be bragging thats the truth, and I'm good friends with all my ex's. It's just I've been let down, messed around and played by girls too much while I was an AFC, which is one of the reasons I made the change. 

The other thing is when I was doing soul gazing I had both my palms out left facing up and right facing down, she had  hers out the opposite way so we were touching palm to palm, is that correct? 

But trust me, as much as I want to sleep with as many girls as the next guy, I'm not trying to mess this girl up, she does mean a lot to me but I can't ignore the chemistry we have between us, maybe it's just a short lived lust filled night that we need or maybe it's something deeper, more meaningful, only time will tell...
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