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To be honest I stopped reading the text at you busting her balls...

This is weak man. I say that with love.

First off, If you go at it with a must win attitude youre going to lose. One of the first rules in one of the books I read was be willing to lose every girl. Also, people change. She's not a must win. I agree with the last post that youre stuck in the past.

Second, you bringing up shit like Im always the first to say hi is needy and unattractive. When shes not giving you attention you should be saying god I hope your not mad at me not giving you attention Ive just been having so much fun (banging you mom, kidding).

I would be reminding her what she misses about you... what made you special the first time around and how youve fixed what ever she bitched about before. Right now Im currently attempting the same thing...but not for the pure reasons you are. I was openly telling her how strong my swagger is and how great I am. She bitches about her fiance... I ignore it and act like Im too busy enjoying life to care.

NOT NEEDY!

Author:	aff219 [ Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:08 am ]
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Without going into a long long story, lets just leave it at this: I knew this girl years before, we've dated, haven't spoken in 3 years until recently. My goal is to win her over. I'm not new to the game, but I've been out of the loop for too long. Tips would be appreciated. Here's a log of the last conversation, I would say this is the first night to go south, don't want to butcher anything further. (I believe I managed to really botch this one) also, this is a "must win" situation, so I'm ready to pull out all the stops. also SPAM we are e-talking only, she's moved out of state and there's no chance of us meeting for a good few months, so I need to accomplish this e-style. I will update this thread every day with the latest updates. note changed any form of identification for her to "girl" ================================================== me: Hey girl: hello me: so, i put in my 2 weeks today at job girl: ah wow, did you get another job or are you just gonna do your new job thing me: going full time new job girl: who knew it was so lucrative me: arrow pointing to myself knew it was so lucrative me: you have to remember girl me: I am a genius girl: well Mr. Genius that is good for you me: I'm also handsome me: I have a good since of humor me: did I mention keen sense of direction? me: My spelling kind of sucks, but thats just because if I was THAT perfect the universe would impload girl: implode? me: implode me: see what I said about spelling? thaaaats my point me: :) me: So how have your past days gone? girl: I'm doing work SPAM girl: stressed out, busy me: mm me: so nothing exciting worth talking about ehh me: kay...well...guess you're a bit more busy than usual SPAM so I'll let you focus me: you need to say hi once ina while though, starting to feel like i bother you cause I'm always the one to say hi girl: I am always frantically busy girl: and sorry but I do not have time to apologize and make amends and all that girl: don't take it personal, it's nuts here me: ...did I ask for that? girl: sometimes I have things ON FIRE IN FRONT OF ME and my boss still needs me to do other stuff and talk about other stuff girl: so if I don't text you, it's because I'm working me: ...text me? I message you when you're not at a computer? me: Are you at work right now? girl: IM, whatever me: I thought I was messaging you when you're not at work...so...times when stuff isnt on fire... girl: I'm just saying, I don't handle stress well and I'm under a lot of it girl: I'll talk to you later, good night me: ...o...kay... me: Well I'm just saying it doesnt hurt to say hi once in a while girl. I'll let you go for now since you're busy, good luck with your going ons. =============================================== notes worth mentioning: -she has a bf as far as i know, don't know how they're doing -we've dated, this is my old oneitis that i was never able to fully remove from mind -I've decided shes what I want after 3 years of separation and countless new girls, finally talking again, MUST WIN. tl;dr must win internet situation with old oneitis, NEED TIPS

Author:	aff219 [ Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:09 am ]
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Author:	aff219 [ Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:30 pm ]
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Really? Not a single thought?

Author:	afcAL [ Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:30 am ]
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Sounds to me like you are hung up on the past, but if you want to risk ripping your heart out all over again try to arrange a meeting or a phone conversation at very least. You can gauge where you are from tonality, body language etc. (SPAM may work.) Since you know the ropes you can run the game from there. If you dated for a while, she knows you well, so all you have to do is throw a hint of how you are feeling somewhere in the conversation. Her reaction will tell you where she stands. If you can sleep at night after busting out a boyfriend destroyer pattern, use it. Personally, I'd rather pour my energy into building a meaningful relationship where the trust and attraction are mutual. Provided that's what you are looking for. Best, Al

Author:	The_Psycho [ Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:54 am ]
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my advice would be to let her go! she isn't that exited to talk to you at all.. but you know that already.. go and find something new and exiting. 3 years have past she is not THE ONE there is someone even better out there you just didn't find it yet.. i wish you all the best man!

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Author:	MrBreeze [ Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:07 am ]
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To be honest I stopped reading the text at you busting her balls... This is weak man. I say that with love. First off, If you go at it with a must win attitude youre going to lose. One of the first rules in one of the books I read was be willing to lose every girl. Also, people change. She's not a must win. I agree with the last post that youre stuck in the past. Second, you bringing up shit like Im always the first to say hi is needy and unattractive. When shes not giving you attention you should be saying god I hope your not mad at me not giving you attention Ive just been having so much fun (banging you mom, kidding). I would be reminding her what she misses about you... what made you special the first time around and how youve fixed what ever she bitched about before. Right now Im currently attempting the same thing...but not for the pure reasons you are. I was openly telling her how strong my swagger is and how great I am. She bitches about her fiance... I ignore it and act like Im too busy enjoying life to care. NOT NEEDY!

Author:	aff219 [ Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:08 am ]
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Quote: To be honest I stopped reading the text at you busting her balls... This is weak man. I say that with love. First off, If you go at it with a must win attitude youre going to lose. One of the first rules in one of the books I read was be willing to lose every girl. Also, people change. She's not a must win. I agree with the last post that youre stuck in the past. Second, you bringing up shit like Im always the first to say hi is needy and unattractive. When shes not giving you attention you should be saying god I hope your not mad at me not giving you attention Ive just been having so much fun (banging you mom, kidding). I would be reminding her what she misses about you... what made you special the first time around and how youve fixed what ever she bitched about before. Right now Im currently attempting the same thing...but not for the pure reasons you are. I was openly telling her how strong my swagger is and how great I am. She bitches about her fiance... I ignore it and act like Im too busy enjoying life to care. NOT NEEDY! Thanks everyone, especially this post. I know yall are all coming at me with this attitude with the best intentions in mind, not blind here, just purposlely foolish. I wasn't in the right mindset when I had this conversation, and as soon as it was done I instantly realized it and thought "...I really should have prepared before talking to her." I realize I can lose her and not make this work, I can accept that (though be extremely disappointed). There's a combination of "great white buffalo" (Seen hot tub time machine?) and personal trophy (As this is what originally made me learn the game) With that said, I still feel I must give this my all and wont be happy with any result besides winning her back over, and yes, I realize this was weak at best. I've backed off for a couple weeks to wait for feedback from here and to let that...conversation if you can call it that go into the past so I can try and comeback strong. I haven't actively practiced the game in about a year, wound up in a pretty happy place with a very attractive girl, I would have never expected to have this opportunity now, and I wish I had stayed active to be better prepared for it. I've been re-gathering my old glorious self (ie game master) since I posted this thread, just gotta brush the cobwebs off, and feeling a ton more confident for round 2. Question/request from you all: I need tips on how to "fix" the horrible mistake of conversation. Obviously thats her impression of me now and going to be a hurdle to jump over. How does one save face and regain alpha male status from such a mess?

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