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| Author: | tay [ Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | number closing/kc/etc |
I need some help in advancing my escalation. I went out to a party on Friday and I didn't get any numbers or any kc's. Looking back I am a looser for not getting more physical/productive. I opened up pretty much every set and only like two sets of girls were real bitches. I talked to bunch of girls but I have a problem of isolating my target/or even picking my target. But even when I pick my target, and the target might be interested, but her friends are usually not. After talking to them I don't want to just say "can't i get your number?" because that might pressure her in not giving me her number because her friends may not approve. Also lets say it's a two set, and if I try to isolate one girl, what is the other girl gonna do? am I over analyzing this and should I just ask for one girls number even when she is in the group of other people? Although I do try to build comfort by hugging, push-pull, taking girls hand and pretend I know how to palm read,etc. |
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| Author: | CanYouTango [ Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:20 am ] |
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First of all you should work on one thing at a time. For example to improve your escalation. Go into your next few sets thinking only of kino escalation. Use any excuse to touch her, a funny joke, a game, moving somewhere else. It will begin to feel natural to touch more and more. After you get that down focus on the getting numbers part. I'm not really an advocate of going for the number for the number. In my opinion you should set up another time to do something with her, and because you set something up you'll grab her number. People are way too hung up on numbers, when it's one of the hardest things to get a girl to hang out with you after only getting a number. Unless you killed it with game, its a lot more effective to set up another meeting. |
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| Author: | *FlaiR* [ Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:27 pm ] |
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Yeah you're over-analyzing a little bit. You need to try and fail in order to learn calibration. Failing is a part of learning don't worry if you try to isolate her and her friend remains alone. You don't have pyschic powers, you do not know what will happen until you start experimenting and take action. Also, for some reason, getting kiss closes is much easier than getting numbers. You can easily get a kiss close if you escalate quite good. Download VinDiCarlo's escalation ladder 2nd edition and read it..it's perfect for how to escalate. You don't even need to talk about something interest, as long enough as you're body language shows interest in her and as long enough as you reward with sexual escalation. When she does something that you don't like or mean..don't escalate. It's kind of like a punishing/reward system. Girls love the feeling of escalation (touch)..so when you remove it from them, they will want it back Good luck in field! |
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| Author: | tay [ Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:07 pm ] |
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thanks guys, I just gotta let go of my emotional feelings and all that. Also gonna get that escalation ladder book. I saw he has a 5 part video series on youtube about it also |
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