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Author:  ThePickupMan [ Tue Oct 22, 2013 5:09 am ]
Post subject:  Ehhh, First "LTR" in 2 years.

So I met this girl on a social network, never intended to meet anyone; I go there because I buy ad space on websites. Anyways, she messages me and we "hit it off".

Some background and random facts that may help understand the situation:

-Shes 19, im 24
-claims to have only had sex ONCE before me, I can believe it as her inexperience shows.
-is slightly above average look wise
-she has started to love sex, we have it 2-3 times a day when together. I feel depleted after a few days actually.
-She moved here 2 months ago and really has no friends. One female friend and one male friend.
- we have only been together for 2 months.


Today I decided to not hang out with her. She decides to hang with a coworker. She went shopping then "drove around for a good bit".

I get on facebook and see that he had given her flowers and she posted a pic of it and two pictures of them together in the car wearing some "fun glasses".

Anyways, the dude is a 22 year old geek and a 4/10 in my eyes. Im a decent 8/10. And he lives very close to her. I met him when I went into her work the other day. When I left she said he said that I looked like a d-bag, that wasnt a big deal.

The flower thing pisses me off, and what irritates me more is that she put it up on facebook and how she is doing it with "open grace".

He has been trying to get with her for a while now, im not sure if he has been friendzoned or what. Anyways Im just ranting and im not sure how I want to deal with the situation. Am I making a big deal out of nothing?

Author:  Emdaet5 [ Tue Oct 22, 2013 5:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ehhh, First "LTR" in 2 years.

For only dating her for two months, you sound needy af.

Edited; Don't look too far into nothing, sounds like you and her are hitting it off great if the sex is that high. Why worry about some guy that bought her flowers? I doubt she thinks anything of him and you lowered your value by getting upset about it.

Author:  ThePickupMan [ Tue Oct 22, 2013 5:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ehhh, First "LTR" in 2 years.

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For only dating her for two months, you sound needy af.

Edited; Don't look too far into nothing, sounds like you and her are hitting it off great if the sex is that high. Why worry about some guy that bought her flowers? I doubt she thinks anything of him and you lowered your value by getting upset about it.
yea, ive really only had one other longish relationship; it was mostly fake but she cheated on me and I guess I have trust/jealousy issues.

I posted a comment on the photo she posted, "awkwardddddd". The photo has been deleted lulz, I think I bombed this one. beta move.

Author:  AFCToTheMax [ Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ehhh, First "LTR" in 2 years.

People here will say this is AFC. If it bothers you that she posted pictures of getting flowers from another guy on facebook tell her. If she feels sorry etc. that's good because that means she cares about you. If she doesn't say anything or ignores you than that means she doesn't give a shit about your feelings.
It would bother me personally if my gf would do something like this and I would tell her.

Author:  ThePickupMan [ Tue Oct 22, 2013 9:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ehhh, First "LTR" in 2 years.

Im not sure what AFC is, I cant seem to find any literature on it.

Author:  In$tinct [ Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ehhh, First "LTR" in 2 years.

How can you possibly not find the most common abreviation in pick-up? Well anyway AFC=Avarage Frustrated Chump.

You acted a bit needy but I don't think this would affect your relationship in the long run as long as you don't act like a wuss again. Think logically. Contrary to popular belief, women are logical. It's just a different kind of logic... Here, I'll show you.

1) You're having lots of sex which means she's into you very much.

2) Random guy friend calls you a douchebag which is never a good move. It annoys girls a lot when they're told their bf is a douche and this is only helping you.

3) Random guy friend gives her flowers. I don't know if it was her birthday or anything like that, but if not then this is by definition needy. Still only helping you. Guy has provider frame, you have lover frame. Lover frame >>>> provider frame.

4) She puts a picture of this on facebook.

Conclusion: Guy is deeper in the friend-zone than the Mariana trench. That's why she put a picture on facebook, because in her eyes he is not even a man, just a wuss, and I think she didn't even think this would bother you because of the bff status of the poor guy.

Solution: I have a little trick about these guys that are after my gf. I just befriend them. Go out with them, have some drinks, I may even wing other girls for them. It instantly puts you in a leader of the pack status, it kills even the minimal chances they had with your girl, and it may even cause your gf to be even more attracted to you.

Author:  ThePickupMan [ Tue Oct 22, 2013 1:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ehhh, First "LTR" in 2 years.

Thanks, that does make a ton of sense.

We are gona hang out tonight and I was planning on telling her that it bothered me. Im assuming this would be a bad move?

Author:  In$tinct [ Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ehhh, First "LTR" in 2 years.

It depends on how you tell her. Learn to communicate with your girl and put more emphasize on feelings than on actions because then she would understand better.

I'd go with something like this:

You know it me feel a bit upset that you posted the picture with the flowers. I know I overreacted a bit, eventhough I trust you and I know I have nothing to be jealous of. I understand he's just a guyfriend of yours and he actually seems like a really nice guy to just buy you flowers like that. Maybe I can hang out with him later and get to know him, or if that's uncomfortable for him, we can do something together. I do like you and I want to meet your friends too.

This is complete destruction. If she agrees that the three of you hangs out together the guy is just destroyed. I know it's a really ass move but since you have said you have trust issues, knowing that this makes sure nothing is ever going to happen between them will solve some of these issues of yours, at least regarding this particular guy.

Peace,

In$tinct

Author:  MrBreeze [ Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ehhh, First "LTR" in 2 years.

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Conclusion: Guy is deeper in the friend-zone than the Mariana trench. That's why she put a picture on facebook, because in her eyes he is not even a man, just a wuss, and I think she didn't even think this would bother you because of the bff status of the poor guy.

Solution: I have a little trick about these guys that are after my gf. I just befriend them. Go out with them, have some drinks, I may even wing other girls for them. It instantly puts you in a leader of the pack status, it kills even the minimal chances they had with your girl, and it may even cause your gf to be even more attracted to you.
Agreed and thats a genius move, man.

I used to hook up with this girl I worked with until one night she was way too drunk and I told her to call a ride. She called her BF... He came to my place and was a cool guy. We had a few beers before he took her home. After that I wouldnt hook up with her and would call her out on her cool BF.

Its harder to fuck your friends gf plus on the girls side its way sluttier. Nice move!

Author:  ThePickupMan [ Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ehhh, First "LTR" in 2 years.

Quote:
It depends on how you tell her. Learn to communicate with your girl and put more emphasize on feelings than on actions because then she would understand better.

I'd go with something like this:

You know it me feel a bit upset that you posted the picture with the flowers. I know I overreacted a bit, eventhough I trust you and I know I have nothing to be jealous of. I understand he's just a guyfriend of yours and he actually seems like a really nice guy to just buy you flowers like that. Maybe I can hang out with him later and get to know him, or if that's uncomfortable for him, we can do something together. I do like you and I want to meet your friends too.

This is complete destruction. If she agrees that the three of you hangs out together the guy is just destroyed. I know it's a really ass move but since you have said you have trust issues, knowing that this makes sure nothing is ever going to happen between them will solve some of these issues of yours, at least regarding this particular guy.

Peace,

In$tinct
Pretty slick right there. I was originally going to say something allong the lines of that I feel that it was disrespectful and that I deserve a little more respect.

On somewhat of an emergency note. I havnt texted her since she took the picture down.

at 11 02 she texts "good morning" then 11 36 "are you mad at me...?"

I have not responded just yet.

Author:  MrBreeze [ Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ehhh, First "LTR" in 2 years.

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On somewhat of an emergency note. I havnt texted her since she took the picture down.

at 11 02 she texts "good morning" then 11 36 "are you mad at me...?"

I have not responded just yet.
So respond... Invite her over. Fuck her brains out. Put this behind you!!!

Author:  ThePickupMan [ Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ehhh, First "LTR" in 2 years.

Quote:
Quote:

On somewhat of an emergency note. I havnt texted her since she took the picture down.

at 11 02 she texts "good morning" then 11 36 "are you mad at me...?"

I have not responded just yet.
So respond... Invite her over. Fuck her brains out. Put this behind you!!!
yea probably gona do that this evening, she is going into work.

Im gona respond back with yea im a little upset using in$tincts post as a guideline.

Author:  ThePickupMan [ Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ehhh, First "LTR" in 2 years.

I replied: Hey. I am a little upset that you posted up the picture of the flowers. I overreacted a bit even though I trust you and have nothing to be jelous of. Its just an awkward situation.

She replied: I am sorry I upset you. That wasn't the intention. I mentioned to him that no one bought me flowers before so he wanted to be nice is all. It wasn't a romantic gesture at all. I hope you don't hate me.. I was so worried that you weren't going to talk to me again. :(

Im probably going to respond with something along the lines of "Its alright, I just really do like you" or "Its hard to hate someone you really like"

Author:  ThePickupMan [ Tue Oct 22, 2013 5:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ehhh, First "LTR" in 2 years.

I replied: Its ok. I just really like you. I diddnt know the background behind it, I know he has expressed interest in you in the past and seeing you accept the flowers with "open arms" hurt. (probably a beta move)

She replied: oh my gosh no! youre the only guy im interested in for a long time. Ill try to keep my distance from him so it wont cause problems with us. (im not sure I like the idea of her avoiding him for me)

Author:  In$tinct [ Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ehhh, First "LTR" in 2 years.

Yeah make sure that doesn't happen. Express your trust in her that she doesn't need to avoid him because you trust her. And I stand by my point that getting to know the guy would be a good idea. It makes you seem so strong emotionally and socially that it pretty much diminishes all the little mistakes you did here :) Other than that you did fine with this conversation. She seems like a very nice girl to be so understanding about this. I wish you guys luck, and if you have any questions further about other relationship "problems" feel free to PM me. I'm not really the player type but I excell when it comes to relationships and communication.

Peace,

In$tinct.

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