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| Author: | Hakuna [ Sun Oct 02, 2011 7:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | 5 Subtle negs you can use in your relationship |
Top 5 Subtle Negs Negs don’t always have to be meticulously crafted taunts that slightly shred the inner fabric of a girl’s ego. Sometimes, especially in relationships, they can take more fluidly applicable forms. 5. “Did you say something?” It’s beyond the scope of human understanding to fully comprehend the power of aloof-asshole game. You need to try it for yourself to believe me. Ignoring a girl too abrasively will make her feel too dejected, or worse; make your intentions forcibly obvious. Not ignoring her at all and hanging on to her every word is the type of beg-for-scraps attitude that guarantees you’ll have dry spells for so long you might regain your virginity. Offhandedly musing, “Did you say something?” and then laughing and saying, “just kidding, I was listening to you, you said something about [insert random topic],” is the type of remotely detached – yet still in love – attitude you want to master. 4. “…….usually” or “……sometimes” Add to the end of a fractured compliment with the perfect amount of delay for maximum effect. “You’re introverted but that’s a good thing…usually.” “No of course you don’t look fat…usually.” Be prepared for further prodding after you deploy this delicately ambiguous neg. Do NOT back pedal and attempt to “explain” what you meant. Act like you’re oblivious to what just happened. If she becomes too hurt, make it up to her with on the spot sex. Never opt for trying to “explain” what you meant. 3. “Sigh” or “meh” or “eh” Everything is in the delivery for this one. If you fuck that part up, you run the risk of coming off as a retarded teenager without the capacity to fully verbalize his thoughts. Otherwise, a vague gesture makes her wonder what you’re thinking; and the more a girl tries to deconstruct your thoughts, the deeper she will fall in love with you. I guess you can call it “mental” investment and see it the same way as “time” or “emotional” investment. 2. “She’s really smart” Calling another girl pretty won’t do much, it’s become too much of a cliché. But calling another girl smart will do wonders; the vast majority of American girls are insecure over their own level of intelligence and level of authority. The neg itself can be modified to fit with any insecurity. Don’t apply too liberally as the effect of each consecutive compliment will be marginally reduced until eventually she realizes you’re either too easily impressed or trying to make her jealous in which case the jig is up. 1. “No” #2 might have a larger radius of impact but when it comes to laconic negs, this HAS to be #1 for its effectiveness, ease of use, brevity, and eternal effect factor. The more you say no, the more she wants you to say yes. And occasionally when you DO say yes or act extra nice, you open up the possibility of “always” being extra nice and create that crushingly compelling need within her to continue chasing a monopoly over your affection. “No” can be fucking powerful. And not a long elaborate “No because blah blah blah” either. Just a short and brief no, delivered with full eye contact and unstoppable confidence. |
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| Author: | Bouncerr [ Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:21 pm ] |
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Before I stepped into the PUA world, I had a relation. But I was a lil bored, because I didn't realy like this girl. So I started to 'fuck around' . It was realy funny, cuz if there was a romantic moment, like in the movies when everybody is smiling watching it, I did something to ruïn it (not realy ruïn but just fucked around haha) like stopping kissing, and turn around and put my head in the pillows (gay example but I'm bad at examples), and she was like: ''Wtf is happening?'' And started to laugh. Later when I discovered Pua, I learned that it was called negging hahaha |
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| Author: | Apocalyptica [ Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:58 pm ] |
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Quote: Before I stepped into the PUA world, I had a relation. But I was a lil bored, because I didn't realy like this girl. So I started to 'fuck around' . It is called immature behavior.It was realy funny, cuz if there was a romantic moment, like in the movies when everybody is smiling watching it, I did something to ruïn it (not realy ruïn but just fucked around haha) like stopping kissing, and turn around and put my head in the pillows (gay example but I'm bad at examples), and she was like: ''Wtf is happening?'' And started to laugh. Later when I discovered Pua, I learned that it was called negging hahaha You do NOT neg your GF. At most you keep her on her toes. Do not underestimate the sensitivty of some girls. |
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| Author: | zzzz [ Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:23 pm ] |
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Trust me, if you do this, you will create a monster. The most frustrating thing in a relationship is a girl who needs to be constantly validated because she is insecure. |
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| Author: | Mack 2.0 [ Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:48 am ] |
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hakuna, simply brilliant, as usual, reps coming your way |
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| Author: | Maikuljay [ Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:32 am ] |
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See, Im sure these points work great.. But I question the necessity of it. I mean, you guys are really finding it necessary to game your girlfriends? I get that it is necessary to uphold a strong confident mentality but if you've gone through the lengths and finally decided to settle on a girl, one would assume you would have a slightly more mature outlook on the situation. Gaming in general, I believe should be a tool to build up yourself, your esteem, confidence and refine you as a man so that you dont strike these "issues" when finally settling on a girl. Hanging off their every word was mentioned.. is this not just PUA 101 as a not to do? I mean if you run this risk of this happening perhaps your inner game is not finely tuned enough to have a girlfriend long term? there is a lot to be said for "fucking up" a few relationships to "grow" naturally and learn what not to do. It just seems that if your reading these "tips" on how to neg, you really still, have no clue on what you should or shouldn't be doing.. Therefore no matter of theory seems to be providing the sticking experience that you need.... you should go get more "real life" experience through trial and error. |
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| Author: | Hakuna [ Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:16 pm ] |
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"negging" your girlfriend does not mean making her insecure to the point of breaking her self esteem. It means teasing her in a way that asserts your amused mastery over her and keeps her on her toes. Women LOVE to be teased in such a way, you should let that shit flow from your tongue like manna from the heavens. You are criticizing this idea for being "immature" or "unnecessary" because you're thinking of it from the eyes of a calculative PUA- someone constantly constructing new techniques to exploit his girlfriend's self-esteem. That is NOT what this post describes. Regardless of what anyone says, a relationship and pick up game are inextricably linked. They are different in form because routines can be memorized whereas in relationships your inner game is tested more, but they are ultimately two sides of the same coin. Seduction is the same, even when you're "seducing men" (like being a political leader or a manager at work) you are using the same techniques as you would with women (asserting dominance, confidence and leadership). Quote: It just seems that if your reading these "tips" on how to neg, you really still, have no clue on what you should or shouldn't be doing..
Of course no one has any clue what they're doing, the amount of anti-game men are exposed to runs on the level of a religious crusade. Everyday a new movie comes out that teaches us to act desperate, everyday a new romantic novel comes out that makes us think that women WANT us to put them on a pedestal. That's why websites like these take shit to the next level. Of course I don't think you should break a girl's self esteem, but I DO THINK that because men are normally conditioned to pedestalize women SO FUCKING MUCH, that they need to be exposed to advice 180 degrees from where they were just so they could balance themselves out. It's not enough to tell guys "don't be so desperate," or to tell a guy coming out of a 10 year marriage "cheer up, there will be another one." In that same way, it's not enough to tell 99% of the guys in pathetic relationships where they are constantly supplicating to their girlfriends "don't act like a pussy." You need to show them the power of being an asshole, a jerk, a person not afraid to embrace their masculinity. While these negs come out as "artificial," the point of this post was to show how a different attitude should be implemented within the framework of your relationship. One where you're NOT afraid to make fun of your girlfriend, to tease her, or to occasionally make her jealous. |
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| Author: | AlphaLove [ Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:15 am ] |
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Hakuna brilliant responce. If I had enough points to give i would of! I was the nice guy for so long in my life, but in the last 2 years have developed a jerk badboy attitude to balance things out. you hit it on the head my man! |
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| Author: | Dr. Jones [ Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:38 am ] |
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Be careful with these negs, fellas. If they backfire, you'll know about it! |
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| Author: | Savex [ Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:15 am ] |
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good tips thanks for your information |
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| Author: | P-Style [ Wed Oct 12, 2011 6:25 pm ] |
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When I saw the topictitle at first I was like omfg. Why would you game your girl. But these 'negs' as you call them actually are quite good and I assume every good couple does it to eachother. A simple dreamy "hmmm what did you say?" actually sharpens up things. But when you overdo it, they will act up and give you less head. |
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| Author: | ShinRa [ Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:20 pm ] |
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I think sometimes people restrict too much the scope of the word "Game" to the pick up phase of the Game. Every social relationship is a Game, in the sense that it involves specific rules. It is a challenge, and we perhaps call it game because we like to play along with it, we enjoy it, and, most importantly, we don't take ourselves too seriously. Of course the base of the relationship should be trust and not deception. And I don't think Hakuna wanted to imply a deceptive mood when he said to "neg" your gf. More of an assertive mood. Anyway you put it, you are always gaming, no matter how long the relationship has been going on. Perhaps you will have that [false] safe feeling given by habit, but it won't matter, the game of your relationship is going on. And if it's out of your control or scrutiny, it will turn out bad without you even realizing when it started in the first place. Trust me, if you stop showing confidence, assertiveness and a grounded behavior you will ruin your relationship. Keeping her on her toes means not letting her giving you for granted, don't be always condescending (that's why I think the #4 is very good), it doesn't mean to make her panicking and frustrated and always in need of validation. We could discuss on how good are those examples by Hakuna, but I would not argue against the principle guiding this post. My two cents, ShinRa |
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| Author: | Pop42 [ Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:19 pm ] |
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I think that negging a new target is totally different than negging your gf. The only reason to neg your gf is this: To not be AFC. When you start to love someone your brain releases a hormone called oxytocin. This will fuck up all the leverage (hand) you have been building thoughout your relationship. You'll start saying AFC shit and pretty soon you'll be wrapped around her finger. Stay on YOUR toes boys by keeping your girl from owning them |
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| Author: | Wolfwoodd [ Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:33 pm ] |
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You do NOT neg your GF. At most you keep her on her toes.
THIS! Good lord, don't neg your girlfriend. This is not helpful advice (in this context). There are things you should be doing in a relationship to maintain an alpha frame, but it's not this. Well, not exactly. Learn to make decisions and lead well. Don't put up with stupid drama. Reward good behavior and do stuff like this when she exhibits bad behavior. Do not underestimate the sensitivty of some girls. -Wolf |
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