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| Author: | Mpua4life [ Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Mystery Method Date Fail |
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq5hOhzSZb8[/youtube] |
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| Author: | Punchl!ne [ Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:21 am ] |
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He's bragging. He's arrogant. (Not cocky, arrogant -- BAD!) He's not exactly great at reading her either. Well, fun to watch at least. |
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| Author: | ncp [ Sat Apr 10, 2010 12:58 am ] |
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Quote: He's bragging.
Agreed but I had the opposite reaction, I find this hard to watch. Dude just seems like such a fuckhead.
He's arrogant. (Not cocky, arrogant -- BAD!) He's not exactly great at reading her either. Well, fun to watch at least. |
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| Author: | Buz [ Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:18 am ] |
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At 1:10 he triggers a pre-selection switch, you can see her becoming more interested, then of course he screws it up. and when he says he has Chinese friends, she becomes more interested, but i dont think could recover from the Filipino. But it was interesting to watch her reaction. |
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| Author: | Punchl!ne [ Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:25 am ] |
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Quote: Quote: He's bragging.
Agreed but I had the opposite reaction, I find this hard to watch. Dude just seems like such a fuckhead.He's arrogant. (Not cocky, arrogant -- BAD!) He's not exactly great at reading her either. Well, fun to watch at least. Failure from people like this at least. |
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| Author: | Mr Magic [ Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:14 am ] |
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This is why I like AFC Adam and natural game more than Mystery. With natural game, you'll be good for every situation. Here, he's trying real hard to do some game that she said "didn't feel natural". |
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| Author: | Punchl!ne [ Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:45 am ] |
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Indeed. Mystery Method isn't for everyone. I prefer other ways. Mix n' blend. |
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| Author: | DonPua [ Fri May 07, 2010 11:06 pm ] |
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I don't really agree with all the critics towards the Mystery method. I mean, isn't his method specifically tailored for nightgame ? This video looked like speeddating. It is a completely different setting. When you are in a bar, everyone is high energy and in such a high energy environment you can come off faster with these made up Las Vegas stories than on speed dating. This guy was also just trying to DHV the complete time. He was just a big show off. There are many ways to create attraction besides preselection-DHVing. If you preselecion-DHV the whole time, you are just a brag. And bragging kills attraction. If you brag to much, you show that you lack self confidence. Personally, I would never DHV early on by telling stories where girls were hitting on me. It is better to start such stories when you received several ioi's from the girl. Better DHV stories are those that come under rader, like stories in which you indirectly show that you care for your loved ones or stories in which you helped people in need, or whatever. This guy just isn't very subtle with his DHV's. In fact, maybe he was speaking the truth, but I don't think the girl believed his stories. Also his kino routine ... where the hell did that came from ? Out of the blue he starts teaching handshakes. I think the transition wasn't very smooth. It is just plain weird how he was talking about how girls were hitting on him and then suddenly transitioned to this handshake routine. Like the girl said, it looked like if he knew what to say and do beforehand. It was clear he practiced and studied a script. Besides these mistakes this guy lacks basic social skills. Why didn't he shake hands with the girl at the beginning ? Why was he doing all the talking ? He didn't ask even 1 thing about the girls personal life. After 4 minutes of conversation he didn't even know 1 thing about the girl's personal life. The girl must certainly have thought that he didn't care about her. It looked like she was sooo uninteresting that he didn't want to spend any seconds in knowing her, but kill time as fast as possible by talking about himself. This guy has read about the mystery method but despite that he clearly has no game. He understands the each individual concept of the Mystery method but he lacks understanding of how these concepts should be linked. I am sure Mystery would have done much better than this guy. |
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| Author: | Reborn1 [ Sat May 08, 2010 1:53 am ] |
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Wow that was Horrible |
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| Author: | crawlinkingsnake [ Sat May 08, 2010 3:38 am ] |
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Speaking of Mystery... I'd really like to see this him actually out and running game..it'd be like watching your favorite band live. And this guy in the video...well you guys pretty much said it all. But seriously I do have one question....when I meet girls I definitely always shake their hands, but a few times I've had girls make some kind of comment about it along the lines of sarcasm; much like it was a dorky thing to do. Is there a specific way to shake a girls hand of are these very few girls just retarded? I always go for the more polite one like when you hold your hand out palm up and then take theirs. |
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| Author: | DonPua [ Mon May 10, 2010 11:56 am ] |
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Quote: Speaking of Mystery... I'd really like to see this him actually out and running game..it'd be like watching your favorite band live.
There are always gonna be girls that find giving handshakes strange. Just don't care about the reaction. Give the handshake as confident as you can. The more confident you give your handshake, the less bad reactions you are gonna get. And if you get a bad reaction, despite a confident handshake, you should neg the girl. For example, if she is being sarcastic about the handshake you can just ignore the comment, wipe your hand at your trousers and say: "Are your hands always that sweaty ?". By doing this you not only lower her value but you shift focus towards her sweaty palms and she won't be thinking about that supposedly dorky handshake anymore.
And this guy in the video...well you guys pretty much said it all. But seriously I do have one question....when I meet girls I definitely always shake their hands, but a few times I've had girls make some kind of comment about it along the lines of sarcasm; much like it was a dorky thing to do. Is there a specific way to shake a girls hand of are these very few girls just retarded? I always go for the more polite one like when you hold your hand out palm up and then take theirs. |
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| Author: | ChesterTucky [ Tue May 11, 2010 7:59 pm ] |
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this guys just bragging, and is talking about himself a lot. he needs to be more interested in her. If she knows less about him than he knows about her he already has an advantage. thus being the dominant one of the conversation because he knows her more than she knows him. Its going to force her to ask questions regarding him. its almost like forcing an IOI out of her just by withholding information. |
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| Author: | DonPua [ Tue May 11, 2010 11:22 pm ] |
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It is not only that the DHV he is trying to accomplish actually DLV's him because he is bragging. In the mystery method after the attraction phase, there is also a comfort phase in which you should qualify the target and get to know her. He skipped that part. So in fact it is quit normal that he didn't succeed. He didn't do all the steps of the mystery method and besides that he DLV-ed with the bragging. He didn't really create attraction. |
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| Author: | crawlinkingsnake [ Thu May 27, 2010 4:55 am ] |
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Quote: There are always gonna be girls that find giving handshakes strange. Just don't care about the reaction. Give the handshake as confident as you can. The more confident you give your handshake, the less bad reactions you are gonna get. And if you get a bad reaction, despite a confident handshake, you should neg the girl. For example, if she is being sarcastic about the handshake you can just ignore the comment, wipe your hand at your trousers and say: "Are your hands always that sweaty ?". By doing this you not only lower her value but you shift focus towards her sweaty palms and she won't be thinking about that supposedly dorky handshake anymore.
Cheers, I definitely dig the neg man. I wish I could think of that stuff in a pinch it'd help so much.
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| Author: | Chris Hart [ Thu May 27, 2010 11:31 pm ] |
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My favorite part of this whole thing was: 4:00 mark.. "I'm having a lot of fun on this date. Uh..The conversation's flowing naturally. I was into her, and I could tell that she was into me.." 4:08 mark.. "I'm not into him at this point.." haha fun to watch |
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