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"thesocialengineer" <<<, type that into youtube. you'll find a guy who is so SICK at daygame, its insane
Yep, he's fairly advanced in his tactics and a very solid conversationalist in general. He combines story telling DHV elements with roleplay ("lets find you a boyfriend!"), and some basic but very well disguised push & pull. Aggressive but playful kino immediately. Mild peacocking. You can hear the routines and distinguish them from the spur of the moment remarks.

Best description I have of his game is a mixture of Mystery and Tyler Durden.
I have watched Fight Club a millions times and he doesn't give a girl a thumb war to pick her up!He has confidence I will give him that, which is a lot more than most PUA's.

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First off- the Succeed at Dating company is not the same as the Seduce in Seconds company. Seriously, guys, did you learn how to read?

Secondly- real or not, the video here is excellent. I have my suspicions regarding some of the other videos on Succeed at Dating where you see the couches having a kiss close a few minutes into the meeting. But actors or not, these are still pretty good videos.

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"thesocialengineer" <<<, type that into youtube. you'll find a guy who is so SICK at daygame, its insane
holy crap. that guy is one of the best PUAs i've ever seen.

watch this http://youtube.com/watch?v=-Y_6PwgWVJM

thanks so much for posting that name. i never even heard of him before

What I don't get is his opener, he opens them by saying "hey can I borrow you for a second". Then he follows with "I thought your cute and wanted to come say hi". Isn't that the wrong way how to do it?


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Guys. TheSocialEngineer and his company Seduce in Seconds or whatever were found to be fraudulent.

Check out http://www.puawatchdog.com and see for yourselves. He has been proven to set up situations.
Actually, Seduce in Seconds were NOT fraudulent. Pua Watchdog were found to be the fake ones....see the following video http://www.sumo.tv/seduceinseconds


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who is PUA watchdog anyways? Why did anyone believe him over the social engineer. PUA watchdog only has one PUA on the list of suspicious sites, how are we supposed to trust watchdog out of the blue like that?


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Guys. TheSocialEngineer and his company Seduce in Seconds or whatever were found to be fraudulent.

Check out http://www.puawatchdog.com and see for yourselves. He has been proven to set up situations.
Now that more information has come out... decide for yourselves... here is Seduce in Second's reply to PUA watchdog. http://www.sumo.tv/seduceinseconds.

Educate yourselves and made your own decision. Though PUA watchdog seems to have jumped the gun on the whole "different schools" thing, that still sounds sketchy. Seduce in Second's reply was filled with "straw man" arguments, a device employed by many powerful politicians. Now, I personally find it weird that PUA watchdog hasn't put out another episode as of today.

Who knows. Maybe some new developments will settle this problem once and for all. I suppose the important lesson here is to take control of your own experience and don't let others convince you until you've done your own homework.

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Its very easy to see why this video isnt legit (im not taking merit away from it, honestly most of the videos we see arent legit). I only watched about the first 2 mins...Plenty can be learned from seeing these premeditated videos, but its always good to be informed when watching them.

For starters, its not a hidden camera...people naturally act different when they "feel" like they are being watched from outside perspectives. Im not saying all videos that arent on hidden camera are fake, but most of them are probably setup.

Secondly, and this is the biggest indicator to me, is the body language contridicts itself. At one point the brunette is doing the hair thing but has her arms crossed hands under her armpits. The blonde seems overly intrested vocally but is leaning back most of the time, and not really locking in by faceing him. There is only small token resistance put up by them at first...

At about 1:40 ish into the movie it was obviously edited. This edit took place right after asking them a question.

Take it for what its worth, im sure the guy propably does well for himself, but most mPUA's are not willing to take thier chances on tape with a real set...you just cant predict how an individual might act.

To be honest the only one ive seen with what look like real videos is Mystery. His stuff is hidden cameras and mics, takes place in night clubs/bars, and the womens body language is completely congruent. Im not talking about his VH1 crap i mean his short hidden cam videos. Either they are legit or hes better at setting them up and making them convincing...

Either way neat video, thx.

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This guy pretty much uses the mystery method....and he uses it well.


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