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Author:  zac905 [ Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:21 am ]
Post subject:  Game is destroying my life!! Help me please!
Ok probabaly a misleading title especially in the "Introduce yourself" thread, but this is my introduction of myself to the community.

This pua forum is the last and only place I can turn to for adivce in this area, I am 20 years old now, I am and have always been notoriously bad with women I am still a virgin and I am begging, NO! I am SCREAMING to be herd out and get help now!! I can't take it anymore I'm fuckin sick of it! ...GET ME LAID!!

My name is Javier Hernandez and I have been studying game for just under a year now I have followed on every word of instructors such as Gambler, Adam Lyons, Sinn, Carlos Xuma, Ross Jefferies and these new guys from the usa, Rob Judge and Zack Bauer. I am an extremly positive guy, I am a singer and fuckin love my 80's rock and roll and metal, and just love life I'm way to positive to killmyself or become Jack the ripper!...But if I don't get laid by the end of this year, who knows what will happen!

Just for the record I am serious there, its actually really eating away at me.

I do not know what my problem is! I can't seem to see it. that is why I'm here, it may be a confidence issue, it could be escalation I don't know, High standards, I've tried all these different methods like Social Proofing and the latest one just alpha-ing up, being a man, being shameless and just leading the interactions.
My latest stunt and humiliation was going through my facebook contacts and just messaging every single girl I found attractive to "Come out for a coffee" I have had no responses so far...LOL moments after I messaged all the girls, one of them posted on her wall this exzact comment.

"which part of FUCK OFF IM NOT ANSWERING YOUR CALLS! doesn't this cunt understand!!!"

I could just be paranoid, but I have a strong feeling it was directed at me!

If someone out there is willing to help me! just diagnose me and tell me what I am doin wrong and help me, even if that means some tough love like, "Stop being such a pussy!!" bring it! I can take it, I just need to be getting laid like a rockstar after all its what I wanna be. :)
Author:  GeminisNext [ Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:20 pm ]
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Can I friend you on Facebook?Id like to get a better outlook of your life.
Author:  zac905 [ Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:31 pm ]
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You know what why not, can we just try not too make this too weird though, there may only be soo much you can obtain from my page and baring in mind I've just pissed off just about all the chicks I'm friends with to the point where I'd probably never get to talk to them again. http://facebook.com/xavierjh
Author:  MynameisFisher [ Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:42 pm ]
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This would seem a bit ambivalent but it is as simple like this. The one and only reason you're not getting laid is because you're trying so hard. Girls can smell desperation from MILES AWAY. Even if you're doing almost everything right... there is this thing about you that they feel. What to do about this? Well obviously stop trying so hard. But then if you don't try... how will you get laid? Easy... You go out not to get laid, but to have FUN. And, if you find a girl with whom the 'fun' seems to be a little more you will try. Just socialize. Talk to people. Talk to girls. If you are an interesting person there WILL be a girl out there who will like you and after that... Well since you're 20 you would need quite a bad luck to find a hot woman that is still a virgin(not that I didn't have this bad luck when I was 18...). So as far as fclosing, if you get the kiss you shouldn't have many problems. Girls at our age are just discovering how satisfying good sex can actually be so they're usually more willing to do it than the younger(who are afraid) or older(who have been hurt quite a few times and are now more careful) ones.
Author:  gabi4play [ Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Game is destroying my life!! Help me please!
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Ok probabaly a misleading title especially in the "Introduce yourself" thread, but this is my introduction of myself to the community.

This pua forum is the last and only place I can turn to for adivce in this area, I am 20 years old now, I am and have always been notoriously bad with women I am still a virgin and I am begging, NO! I am SCREAMING to be herd out and get help now!! I can't take it anymore I'm fuckin sick of it! ...GET ME LAID!!

My name is Javier Hernandez and I have been studying game for just under a year now I have followed on every word of instructors such as Gambler, Adam Lyons, Sinn, Carlos Xuma, Ross Jefferies and these new guys from the usa, Rob Judge and Zack Bauer. I am an extremly positive guy, I am a singer and fuckin love my 80's rock and roll and metal, and just love life I'm way to positive to killmyself or become Jack the ripper!...But if I don't get laid by the end of this year, who knows what will happen!

Just for the record I am serious there, its actually really eating away at me.

I do not know what my problem is! I can't seem to see it. that is why I'm here, it may be a confidence issue, it could be escalation I don't know, High standards, I've tried all these different methods like Social Proofing and the latest one just alpha-ing up, being a man, being shameless and just leading the interactions.
My latest stunt and humiliation was going through my facebook contacts and just messaging every single girl I found attractive to "Come out for a coffee" I have had no responses so far...LOL moments after I messaged all the girls, one of them posted on her wall this exzact comment.

"which part of FUCK OFF IM NOT ANSWERING YOUR CALLS! doesn't this cunt understand!!!"

I could just be paranoid, but I have a strong feeling it was directed at me!

If someone out there is willing to help me! just diagnose me and tell me what I am doin wrong and help me, even if that means some tough love like, "Stop being such a pussy!!" bring it! I can take it, I just need to be getting laid like a rockstar after all its what I wanna be. :)
Damn, dude you burned your bridges with your facebook....bah if you live in a big city no problem.But damn dude , If I was in college right now I'd have gotten laid in the first month.Why? I have an answer for that! Clubs!!! Yep...Clubs!!! Too fucking bad Im 17 , well Im young , but Im in Highschool and I gotta wait for something to happen , and most of games I can do are social and daygame.

But still I rather you take the advice for you to go to the fucking club , dance like crazy,and chicks will come out by themselves.Btw , I see you are a rocker,and that's not really good, I think you should at least cut your hair (if you have it long ) and try a bit to be like the guys at the club (but with a bit of peacocking here and there) because when in a club,the people there sure as hell wouldn't want to see a rock long haired guy (in case you're one)

Go to the club , dance in the middle of the dance floor , and if the chicks won't come at you , go to them , and try to dance,and if you fail,repeat until you win and gain confindence.

GOOD LUCK!!!
Author:  MynameisFisher [ Thu Aug 25, 2011 5:07 pm ]
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Nooooooooooooo. Just noo. Don't you change yourself for any girls. If you like your hair long then cutting it will not help at all. Make your looks as YOU like not as others. That's a key concept of being alpha. And there is totally nothing wrong with rocker-looks. Damn not every chick is looking for discodudes. I'm actually really happy to have another dude who recognizes music other than that car engine-washing machine-like shit in the community. And there are TONS of girls who think the same. Like my gf. She hates clubmusic and is definitely into rockers...Gabi, I don't know probably rockers are not too popular at your school but that's nothing like that in general. Remember this... it's like a #1 Rule not just for gaming but for life itself. NEVER TRY BEING SOMEONE YOU'RE NOT! If you're a rocker then you're not supposed to act like you're not... That's just pure epic fail. Also...you mentioned peacocking. Remember the dude who invented it? You know that really tall guy with strange hats and... LONG HAIR...
Author:  doake [ Thu Aug 25, 2011 5:20 pm ]
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Everything else said, you should probably fix that shit you did on your facebook... If you havent done anything about it already, send those girls a message saying it was just some douchebag friend being an asshole. Whether they believe you or not, atleast they'll know that you regret it. Plus, it seems like a lame thing to do anyway, people probably wont believe you did it yourself. No offence intended there, I can see myself doing it in a moment of frustration too.
Author:  P-Style [ Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:14 pm ]
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How many real life approaches have you done? What have you learned from them? You can read all the material in the world but it remains theory. Game is in the practise.

That said, check out Keys to the VIP (you can find the entire series on youtube) and start analyzing. The shows has mPUA's, killer naturals, but also complete failures. Can't even call them AFC's. But check out what works, what doesn't. Check out why it works and why it doesn't. There is immensely much to learn from it. Check their introfilm and say why they will or will not perform good. Check their body language, posture, attitude, speed of speech. Check for little wordtricks they use.

For me the show was the last part of the puzzle.
Author:  zac905 [ Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:55 am ]
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P-Style: Yeah in hindsight I probabaly could have done more approaches, I've still done quiete a few but I feel as though over studying and obessing over the stuff has caused me to just be in a bad mood and not want to approach. Yeah I will check out the stuff you suggested, just need a bit of abreak first to breathe.

Doake: Hey dude yeah in terms of the facebook shit, wooow yeah problem is the messages I sent all contained sorta personal things about each one, like stuff only I would know, I have no replys, and not that this justifies it at all but NON of these girls were talking to me any way! like even just as friends but yeah I feel like Time my be my best friend there, I feel if I make too big of a deal of it, it would only make it worse.

MynameisFisher: hahahh yeah dude look I probably agree, I mean I love my hair and its part of who I am and if you've seen my facebook page you know I'm not cutting that any time soon, sorry gabi4play I just can't change that part of me. Look tonight some of my good friends have actually got a fancy hotel room booked in the city, its got a pool and everything and we're gonna hang out there tonight and go out and to be honest at the moment I really just want to have a (Fun time!!) as you said, I just wanna go out find a place that I like! with maybe some rock music I know there are some actual clubs that even just play hits from the 80's and 90's, I wanna fuckin dance, have some drinks, laugh with some strangers and just havea good time and yes just try being myself.

gabi4play:Yeah you know what its been my second year out of high school, I've spent most of my time around certin friends who were really not benefiting my life and for that matter their own, fairly cynical angry people, we spent most of our time just going to metal gigs, and just for the record thats a very male dominated kind of event in general. I've been to quiete a few 80's nights at bars and clubs, where they've had tribute and cover bands and there have been tons of chicks! I've always had the bets time there awell even been asked up on stage twice to sing. (Not thats neccecery, I don't want to be the entertaining monkey all the time) But yeah i enjoy just feeling good and getting people pumped.

Just for the record I am taking on this stuff guys cheers even though it may sound like I'm shooting some of the stuff down. but yeah, we'll see how we go tonight. ;)
Author:  zac905 [ Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:22 am ]
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Ok last night, had an awesome time chilled out in a fancy hotel room with some friends and wandered round the city however no success in the women department, and now I am not even getting the thought or curiosity to approach women, I feel like I've gone back to square one. I've given up hope, I need a nudge in the right direction for life.

Yeah those that added me on facebook do you still want me to add you?
Author:  MynameisFisher [ Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:21 am ]
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Ok last night, had an awesome time chilled out in a fancy hotel room with some friends and wandered round the city however no success in the women department, and now I am not even getting the thought or curiosity to approach women, I feel like I've gone back to square one. I've given up hope, I need a nudge in the right direction for life.

Yeah those that added me on facebook do you still want me to add you?
Zac you are taking this thing too seriously. I know it is hard not to do so when you're a virgin but believe me that this is the only way. I was a virgin at the age of 18-19 and at the very moment that I decided not to care about it I got a gf. Yes it took me another 9 months to fclose her because I was still an AFC and she also was a virgin but that doesn't matter... Do not let this thing overtake your life. Do not think you're a failure because you don't have success with women YET. That will change. And the more you "fail" the more you learn. I used the quotation marks because the right mindset does not use the term "fail" in any ways. There are NO failures at all. Just lessons you can learn from. And this applies to your whole life, not just pick-up. This is the trick. Every time you get rejected you don't go "Shit, I fucked up again. What a disgrace I am to men I will die alone." Instead: "Well this is over. What could have I done wrong? Yeah I remember I was pretty needy at some points and my body language was totally falling to her. That could have turned her off. Well, plenty of other girls to practise this shit"
Author:  GeminisNext [ Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:27 am ]
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Listen,Im a 17 year old kid who before this summer was in the eyes of most girls just cute,maybe good for some DMCs(Deep Meaningful Conversation) but no more than that.
Also,I used to make a lot of stupid comments that made me look like a retard,eventhough Im actually really smart.

Anyways,over the summer I started changing my life a little bit.I started reading the Stylelife Challenge,which helped me set goals and work on focused areas.
I wasnt a loser or anything before the summer.Just the opposite,I was very popular but I was more Mr Nice Guy around the girls.

Now I dont say as many stupid comments,Ive got girls turning their head to watch me,and Im being talked about now all around by girls(ye it came back to me a bunch of times).

My advantage was that people knew me and they SAW A CHANGE.That turned a lot of girls on.My advice to you is that youre in a great situation.With a little change here and there( and I dont mean cutting your hair,Im a metalhead and I love the hair) you can change yourself for the better,and the girls who at first wer repulsed by you would start to be attracted to you.
Just thursday night I was at a party and a 2 set was sitting on the side knocking every guy who came to them to the side.They were bored and after 10 minutes of seeing them bored I came over and spoke to them.
Within 5 minutes they were rolling on the floor laughing and eventually one slipped and said "Youre underratedly funny!".I asked if i was rated by girls and she said ye girls didnt speak too great about me but now its muuuchh different :]
Thats what I call owning the party,eventhoguh I wasnt even center of attention.

Add me on Facebook,Im Amitai Zee.I want to help man.
Author:  zac905 [ Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:42 am ]
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Cheers guys, yeah thanks I really appreciate the help, Yeah "MynameisFisher", I have definitly been taking this way too seriously! I've been obsessing on this stuff too much, I just need to get out of my own head and SPAM I feel like I've lost track with what I actually want to do with my life and who I'd like to be.

Amitai cheers man, I will add you on facebook I appreciate the help but like I said before, I just wanna take a little break just try my own thing for a while and clear my head, Im interested to hear what you have to say but I just want to try finding my own answers for a little bit.
Author:  s62731 [ Mon Aug 29, 2011 8:47 am ]
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No one can change you. you ultimately have to change your self.

This is up to you, you have to put in the effort.

It isn't about someone 'fixing you', simply about you improving yourself.
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