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Author:  mymoon [ Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:48 pm ]
Post subject:  New to the game - would like some advice
Hey, I'm 19 years old and would need some help. I've read books from David DeAngelo, Carlos Xuma so my behavior is not completely like AFC, but my skills are still low. Until one month ago, I was a virgin.

Anyway, one month ago I met this 17 years old waitress. She's really hot, about 8.5 on the 10 scale and before one month ago I NEVER EVER thought I could score with a chick like this.

I have no idea what she saw in me. I guess the not hitting on her to hard, tease her a bit, not compliment her worked and hours later we did it in my car.

For about three weeks, she kept texting me, calling me, we had sex two times (we live in separate towns, her parents don't allow her out much, but it was fucking great). I was playing it cool and a bit challenging and I think that's why she kept hitting on me. When we couldn't meet, she kept telling me I should get another chick, that I'll have no problem with that and said she doesn't want me to do that (like I could).

But about a week ago, she called me, almost crying, that she loves me a lot and I don't love her, that she doesn't know how we can go further. That's when I told her I love her, that it hurts me if she talks with her ex (they were 18 months together, they broke up because of me), that I really miss her and so on.

I think that was a major mistake, because since then she has been acting very differently. She has very low initiative on texting and calling. She stopped talking about how horny she and all the sex talk stopped. We met once but she didn't want to have sex.

She doesn't actively participate in the conversation and I the attraction she had for me faded away.

Few days ago she texted me "leave me alone" but moments later apologized that she was in bad mood.

She has bunch of guys hitting on her, lot's of guys write on her facebook wall, she keeps texting with ex (he keeps saying to her he loves her).

How should I handle the situation? I want to get the attraction she felt for me back. I don't wanna lose the semi-regular sex. I also like her a bit.

Thanks.
Author:  Crowy [ Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:56 pm ]
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Hey man,

I'm new to this game, so please don't take what I say as gospel, but I wanted to give you my thoughts on the situation regardless (if somebody has to correct me, then we all learn).

Okay, so I think it was a major mistake to tell her you love her in that situation. It sounds to me like that was a huge test from her, and you failed. With the pressures of her ex and you in the frame, I would imagine that she was stressed and wanted to make sure she had made the right choice leaving him for you. She wanted you to be a man, reassure her etc, but not just break down and tell her you love her to keep her. You acted like a wuss, which probably went against your earlier behaviour when you were being successful with her.

Suggestions? Well, I have no experience of this, but I would imagine that it is going to be very difficult. All I can think of is:

a) Learn from this mistake and move on to the next girl

b) Go back to being a PUA rather than an AFC and get her to remember her experiences with you. Get her to feel those feelings again. Use anchoring and fill lots of deep conversations full of embedded commands.

Best of luck mate,

Crowy
Author:  mymoon [ Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:54 pm ]
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Thanks man.

Today I haven't texted her for half a day and then called her. She was acting like a bitch but I acted as nothing was different (or how should I?). She asked me how did I find the time to call her because I don't text her.

She also said she doesn't know if she'd want to go out tomorrow. What should I say I'll do, if she doesn't? Should I say I'm going out with friends without her?

When I do, she'll probably start texting me big time. How should I act? Reply every 30 mins? Not reply at all (would that be good idea since she already tells me I don't text her enough)?

I know it looks like a lost cause. But I'd at least like one more fuck and then I don't care that much because the relationship won't work out..
Author:  Lionheart213 [ Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:27 am ]
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That's when I told her I love her, that it hurts me if she talks with her ex (they were 18 months together, they broke up because of me), that I really miss her and so on.
Just as Crowy said, I agree that telling her that you love her and more importantly telling her that it hurts you when she talks to her ex turned her off. When in fact you should have done just the opposite when she told you that stuff. That way she would have figured that in fact you DO have other girls you are talking with rather you do or don't. And when you would have put her on the back burner she would have reached out to you more. Girls like her don't like guys that hang on their back all day and nite. They like to chase the bad boys and give them the pussy. Not guys chasing them and looking for the pussy. The other boyfriend basically would be right there and there is no chase. She will get bored of that really quick. But if you are kinda of out of reach doing your own thing. She would try to get at you more making it alot easier for you to get that poo na na you seeking.

My advice is try to be a little harder to get in touch with even though she stated u don't text enough. Make her work a little harder to get you in order. Remember she is playing her own game and trying to bend you. When in fact you need to be the one trying to bend her.

Good Luck Maan, keep us posted.
Author:  mymoon [ Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:05 pm ]
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On Friday we chatted a bit on FB and then she told me that she has to go and that she'll come back at 10PM. I told her I'll be going for a beer and then she said "hear from you tomorrow".

Yesterday, on Saturday, we didn't text neither call. Usually she was always the first to text me, except for the few last days where I was (and then she was angry why I did it that late). We didn't text or call today neither.

Today she wrote on FB that she's watching a scary movie with his ex, so game over for me probably.

BUT I still think I have 15-20% chance of getting her to bed again. Her ex (or probably not anymore) is really a needy guy, since their break up and our hook up he has been sending her messages that he loves her, that he will kill himself (at the beginning) if she doesn't come back etc.

So, if I follow Lionheart213's advice by not contacting her at all (I don't even want to), when they break up again, there's a chance I'll turn her into a booty call. Is that correct?

It's funny and strange, this love game. One day I already cried a bit because of her, but the next day I just didn't care. I noticed that if I keep myself busy and work a lot, I don't have the time to think about her and everything is cool. I also noticed that I can almost "choose" if I'd want to love her or not. It simply takes 10 minutes of deep thinking and it's done. I'm sure I could turn myself to love her this moment. But that would be the worst thing to do right now.

But hey, everything is different now. I f-ed this HB8.5 three times, made her belive (at least at the beginning) that I was a hot shot, having girls all the time and kept her thinking "why did he choose me?" 8), which I thought was IMPOSSIBLE just two months ago.

Everything is different now. I am the MAN.

* high fives himself *
Author:  mymoon [ Fri Mar 11, 2011 5:53 pm ]
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Two days ago I called her and told her this is becoming too serious and we should really be more like the first two weeks. She told me I was becoming to serious and I told her she initiated it and then we stopped talking.

I know this was incongruent with what I told her before (that I really like her) but I think it was something I had to do.

We didn't talk or text since then (freeze out for about 48h)

Now I called her because it's Friday and we can hook up:

// Chat about some random stuff for a minute. //
Me: What are you doing tonight?
Her: We have some family guests at home and I'll be at home.
Me: Let's meet today.
Her: M-m.
Me: Why not?
Her: You didn't call for the whole week and now your dick is up and you want me.
Me: ((I laugh a bit)) Come on.
Her: No, ((she repeats part of the line she said before, making me think she planned to say that before I called her)), I also said I won't go out when my friends asked me.
Me: We'll be watching a movie.
Her: I can watch it at home.
Me: It's boring at home bla bla bla
Her: bla bla
// Over

Now I don't understand if she doesn't want to go out because:
- she really can't because of the guests
- she doesn't want - but why doesn't she say "it's over"?

How should I proceed? Tomorrow is the last chance of having sex until the next weekend.
o) should I call her again in 24h?
o) freeze out for 7 days until Friday? Well that wouldn't be a "fake" freeze out because I really don't wanna chat and text if we aren't having sex.
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