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Author:  pickasso [ Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Hey New to the forum and I need some advice.
Hey,

I have been following this forum closely from the past few days. Pretty cool. I need an advice. **I AM SORRY I AM STARTING AS A TYPICAL AFC HERE, but any expert advice would be really helpful**.

I met a girl online a couple of weeks before. We went on a date and after two weeks we went out again. Guess I acted like a typical AFC on the first date, but there was cuddling in the second. I did not kiss as she was a bit sick. Think I made the following mistakes

1. Sent her a text immediately after the second date that I couldn't wait to see her again.

2. Did not do much of kino.

I called her which she did not pick up. But she responded to a text saying "happy thanksgiving", a day later I texted her again saying we should plan to meet up sometimes. No response.

I like this girl. Seems like my type so far. Any advice on how to go about after this point.

smanya
Author:  PUA Kenny [ Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:53 pm ]
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Smanya-welcome to the forum.

Lol,at least you realized that you made a mistake by immediately after date #2 texting her to see her again.

Certain rules could be over rode but being an AFC,it's a bad thing to text right after date.

I can get away with that(lol).

2nd mistake-no kino.

To be honest with you Smanya,you should've laid this girl from 1st meet up.

I know at your stage that sounds like a lot but this chicc wants action/sex.

You're not giving her what she craves so she's no reluctant to give you a 3rd.shot,3 dates,when she knows that you wont get sexual.

She's now trying to avoid you.

Cant blame her.

It's your responsibility to seduce her & f-close her.

I dont know why you'd waited anyway to amp it up and get physical.

You should be kinoing the target within 2 minutes of meeting her.

You're 2 dates too late.

Why should she give you another date when you'll only waste her time?

This' her thoughts which she will never tell you.

I dont want to say it's over yet but for an AFC,it's over.

Because it takes advanced-social dynamic maneuvers from here on to even get this chicc to committ to another meet-up.

As a newbie,you're not equiped to salvage this.

But this' how I,a seasoned guy would handle this from now on:

1)Stop calling or texting her often!!

2)Only call or text when having fun:loud music in background,etc.

The above will subcommunicate to her that Im fun,having fun(without her)and life goes on.

3)Appear to not care by freezing out,as if you're too busy.

The above will subcommunicate to her that you have a life,possibly with other women(pre-selection).

4)Since you met her online,let's say facebook,I'd post updates & pics of me having fun & adventure.

The above will compel her to comment and wonder why you're not contacting her.
Author:  Hank Moody [ Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:53 pm ]
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personally i would not text her again see if she is playing games or not. go out meet a few women in the next few days, see if u still like her then.
Author:  PUA Kenny [ Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:22 pm ]
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Exactly Hank Moody.

I can see Smanya developing ONE-itis if he continues texting or calling.

As Hank Moody said,You should be active with other girls.

You have no options it seems.

If you're ready,you can try my above advise which was to basically live on and forget this girl.

Easier said,I know 'cause even as an aspiring MPUA,I still at times struggle with ONE-itis and over texting targets who are uninterested,so nobody's bullet proof.

So just move on and "haunt her perifery",by letting her see you having fun & enjoyment,be it in person or online posts.

Then,there's a 90% chance she'll re-contact you.

I came up with the 90% rate based on my experience in similar cases.

The girl always reconnects,but I'd be too uninterested to even r-engage.
Author:  pickasso [ Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:02 pm ]
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Yup. You are right. I did not realize. Anyways, she is not on my facebook. And I dont think it would be a good idea to add her now.
Author:  PUA Kenny [ Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:20 pm ]
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Well,the only thing left to do is the old freezout.

But truely Smanya,this' your fault.

Meaning you're the one who should've played it right.

So we cannot blame her for being a bitch to you if she does decide to cut contact with you.

Thats why the community advocates going for the f-close same night(SNL),1st.date.

Only exception to the above is if you werent able to build enough comfort for whatever reason.

It doesnt matter what a woman says about not kissing until 3rd.date,she's not into ONS,etc.

Pay no mind to that from now on.

Every woman is open to sex on the 1st. night.

That should be your mind set.
Author:  pickasso [ Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:13 pm ]
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Thanks k-loc. A lesson learnt the hard way. I have another date on friday night. Will keep this in mind then. Was researching mostly on online dating and I am making progress ( meaning getting the girls to actually meet me ). I hope to share my findings if this pattern continues for a while.

As a side note, I was wondering if I can be the wing for a pua around in seattle. I would like to get a hang on approaching women in bars / outdoors. Do you know how would I go about it?
Author:  PUA Kenny [ Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:18 am ]
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Well Im actually totally not into wingmen so I cant aid you there.

The wings who I'd sarged with in the past has always managed to f-up my approaches and sets by AMOGing me.

But you're really racking up the dates Smanya.

So whats you approach to the coming date Friday?

What's your expectation?
Author:  pickasso [ Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:38 am ]
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Well, I am actually hoping for Sex. It been a 4-5 months since I had one. Had a bad breakup with my ex. Looking at her, I felt may be I shouldn't hurry up anymore. (Had gotten laid wi her the first date).

Too bad dude. I would never do that. All I want to do is assist and break my shackles in the process. Everyone, has their own way of approach IMO. Just have to get into the water is all.

Thanks mate. But I would be glad if I could close them. Like you do.

This girl is a vegan & curious about India -> so I picked dinner @ an Indian restaurent. The rest I m planning to do on the spot. Probably will take her to an arcade or bowling or dancing all depending on how comfortable we are at the end and at the sametime it has to be something she hasn't done much before. That way, I boost her confidence and hence trust at the same time a lot of kino. She drives to the place. I take a taxi. I will drop her back to the car. She offers a ride (this happens most of the times). I say only if I can make you a real nice cocktail. Rest is for "fate". Any advice?
Author:  pickasso [ Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:40 am ]
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I have been practicing a bit of palm reading lately. I have a few ideas based on tha. I want to test it out too.
Author:  PUA Kenny [ Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:18 pm ]
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Beaty about palm reading routines is that you get to go kino.

2nd beauty is that you really dont have to be accurate in reading.

When I was learning the cube routine years ago,I was killing myself trying to remember the steps,etc.

But it really doesnt matter,the point is to intrigue her & kino.

So when I do palm reading,Im totally making up shit on the spot:"This line in the middle is called the maridus line(lol)".

Total BS I make up becuse the point is to touch the girl,not to deliver an accurate reading.

Lastly,it doesnt matter where yall go,just remember to treat her as though she's your girlfriend.

Hug her and playfully shove her off while walking.

Hold her hand,pull her to you then tickle her playfully.

Playful gets you laid.Im an advocte of playful;thats the key to my game.

Get rid of every seriousness while with her until you enter the seduction phase.

Be playful & light from the get-go.

While sitting eating,take a grain of whatever(rice,etc)and pelt it at her playfully.

Dare her to eat without utensils,playfully feed her a mouthful too big for her to swallow then laugh it off saying,"You're a slob".

While doing all thatt bantering & flirting,that's perfect moment to ramp up the kiino by taking her or bringing her to sit closer,which she will do since the moodd's light.
Author:  PUA Kenny [ Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:45 pm ]
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You should never exit the venue(restaurant,etc.)on a serious note.

Leave playfully tugging,wrestling,tickling,laughing,etc.

During all my interraction,whether on outtings,phone convo,txting,date,the HB always say to me,"you're so crazy".

Thts what your date should be saying to you.

What she means is,you'r driving her crazing and she's hitting buying temperature.

In such a playful state,a kiss close,make-out is nothing.

It only gets awkward when you attempt to KINO,K-close on a serious note.
Author:  Killawolf [ Tue Nov 30, 2010 4:26 pm ]
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Hey Dude, kinda dropped the ball but you can pick it up. Surprise her show her your adventures side. Surprise her if you know where she lives but try and not do it in a creepy way. take her out on a fun filled night show her a side of you she hasnt seen make her feel adventures and dangerous, be a bad ass instead of the nice guy. more confidence and let her know your in charge and you know what your doing.
Author:  pickasso [ Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:30 pm ]
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Here we go. I f-closed her yesterday. She paid for our dinner and kept saying how amazing I was all night.

A few months before: I was doing expensive dinners, fancy flowers, mature conversation and shit and no gold. Would scratch my head for cool date ideas all week.
Now: Only on my social value experiments.

Thanks for helping me out folks. This is so much fascinating. But there is so much to learn and improve upon.

Pickasso.
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