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Author:  DiaZepa [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 3:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Hello PUA's
Hello guys. My name is Chris.

I am a normal looking guy, who has found a extremely gorgeous girl.
Over the course of 3 years, i have worked hard. She hated me in the beginning, and now she is a good friend.

I have seen her boyfriends come and go, and done my best to try to help.

Now, from what i have seen, this girl is an 9 - 9,5

Im growing tired of her only seeing me as a friend. For months now, i have been reading and reading - I have mainly focused on the "October Man" sequence, and i think i got the theoretical stuff.

My problem is that - I am not very ugly or revolting. I am actually good looking, to some degree. But it is widely known that i have a fascination for computers, and i am then classified as a "geek". I also have a tendency to get very hyperactive and childish, and well - I think they would be humilliated to hang out with me.

I do believe i have rapport with - Lets call her Claire.

But my schoolwork has really been my main focus, but now i only want Claire.
Im suffering from a severe cause of one-ingitis, and i have tried for so long now to have sex with other partners instead.

This, gentlemen - Does not work.

So i have come here today, to adapt your techniques, to learn covert hypnosis. I will really do everything i can to make this girl mine.

I will try to help you all with theorethical questions, but as picking up random women at bars is not my main focus - I can not provide much in field help.

Thanks for listening.
Author:  fifeguy86 [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:53 pm ]
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i think you value this woman far too highly mate, if you say fucking other women doesnt work then you havent fucked enough of them, you must seduce and fuck 10 women of decent to high quality. a rep as a ladies man is better than that of a computer geek. dont hide it from her when your dating others either but dont boast, thats not cool.

your other issue is you have low social value at school (geek). you have to work on changing your image as much as possible. talk less about computers, take up some sports and more macho hobbies, hit the gym, go to any parties your invited to. people will notice! while your at it, how do you dress? could you be more stylish? peacock a little?

this particular girl may be a lost cause as you have been in the friend zone for so long but you may still have a shot. does she know how you feel? ever made a move?

finally, what are you reading? i recommend 'magic bullets' by sinn
Author:  DiaZepa [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:33 pm ]
Post subject: 
Thanks for your reply, will look into 'Magic Bullets'.

Well, i dont peacock much - But i dress no different than other people. I actually wear streetwear. (DC, WESC, Volcom...)

My social value is indeed very high, and i am - if i can call it that - a beta male.
Im not a alpha male, but my friend is and im hillarious in class with jokes and shit.

Well, dont know if my training is very macho, but i do a sport called 'tricking' and it does indeed look very impressive.

Example:
/watch?v=7qPSk53w7iU

haha paste that behind YouTube(.)com
Antispam kicking in

EDIT: List of books i have read (* means in progress of reading it)

Neil Strauss - The Game *
Igor Ledochowski - The Art of Great Conversations
Igor Ledochowski - The Power of Conversational hypnosis
Ross Jeffries - Speed Seduction *
IN10se/TwoTimer - The October Man (Watered down version and original)
+ Shitloads of free stuff availible from Ezarticles or w/e
Author:  fifeguy86 [ Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:30 pm ]
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if your pretty good then invite your target to watch you at a competition. good way to raise your value with her. i used to do boxing when i was younger and now i do muay thai (thai kick boxing) and this really can impress girls. def puts you in the alpha frame when she watches you knock some guy out! get girls in crowd opening me after fights. so maybe think about a blood sport if your in good condition.

you can get magic bullets on 4shared(.)com free in pdf format.

i like mystery method and sinn's stuff cos its fun to do, tried speed seduction but its too much like hard work! lol

i like to tease girls a lot and build attraction and comfort thru games and dhv stories, let her become attracted and get her to qualify herself to you and get her to chase you a lil, then escalate kino before i close. magic bullets gives you all the tools you need. i read the game 6mnths ago and got into pick up from there although iv always had fairly good natural game.
Author:  DiaZepa [ Thu Nov 18, 2010 8:02 pm ]
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Cool! Well my natural game sucks, even though i dont look too bad.

But can you help me cure my oneitis?

Well i saw this hot girl at where i train today, and we became friendly to eachother.
She has kind of not cvery strong boundaries so it should be a easy catch.

Kind of slutty, as she wanted to make a sucking mark on my arm, and to lick my cheeks(what the hell, lol). But i heard this is just her common "wow im freaky and i dare to do shit, please like me" thing. A friend of us told her to "make out with him" and "You guys shopuld date" and she like "No, what the hell lol, i gotta go train, bye......"

What the fuck do i do?
Author:  fifeguy86 [ Thu Nov 18, 2010 8:55 pm ]
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your m8 had good intentions but he kinda fucked it up for you, he put the idea of you and her being intimate in her head before ther was any attraction and comfort built, she didnt like it or was undecided so she got flustered and left.

next time you see this little attention seeker, say hi and have a little conversation then play a game with her;

5 lies game

or

fuck, kill, marry

when your having fun nd have established a raport wait till she says something funny/good and say
'your fun to be around, its a shame your not my type.'

if she is hot this will fuck her up a little bit, thats what we are going for, confused people are more easily led. also its refreshing for a hot girl to have to chase a guy, they love the thrill of the chase too! she will probably ask
'what you mean im not your type?' or 'why not?' or 'what is your type?'.

you have a choice of responses here,
'your kinda pretty but your not sexy' or 'your a bad girl, i like nice girls' or 'your a nice girl, i like bad girls'.

hopefully then she will try to qualify herself, if she does then isolate her (bounce lotation if possible) and continue to game, dhv stories, another game maybe, then your going to need to escalate kino (palmreading is a great starter for this if your confident cold reading) from ther it should be pretty natural what to do m8, invite her round to your place to watch a dvd or see your tropical fish or lizard or puppy or whatever.

let me know what you think or what of this you need help with and i wana know how it goes fucker!
Author:  DiaZepa [ Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:09 pm ]
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Lol, she is not acctually a good girl (smokes weed).
Ill get back to you guys, thank you fifaguy
Author:  fifeguy86 [ Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:52 pm ]
Post subject: 
nae worries mate, anytime! i wanna know how it goes tho!

post it here or send me a message
Author:  DiaZepa [ Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:24 am ]
Post subject: 
I dont really schedule our meetings, she trains cheerleading, and i train tricking at the same gymnastics hall. So we meet occasionally.

But i talk to her a lot online - How can i "prepare" the meeting?

I might try conversational hypnosis and "seed" the thought of me boning her or something. Can you help me tailor one of these sentences?
Author:  fifeguy86 [ Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:48 am ]
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im not big on nlp but have read speed seduction so basically, yeah, you could use embedded comands here. why not run the blowjob pattern if this is the way you wana go with it? (only use this in person as i dont see it working onine)

setting a meeting online? tell her you wana talk after training, 'just to catch up', keep it casual. maybe go for a coffee or a milkshake or a wee hurl in your car or whatever.
Author:  DiaZepa [ Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:49 pm ]
Post subject: 
UPDATE

Spent time with her today, and was planning on your move, fifeguy - but something unpredicted happened. I got competition.

This dude was with us today, and he has a good natural game. Didn't pull any techniques or patterns, but will run blowjob pattern and im-attractive pattern next time.

She is kind of slutty, but he got more attention than me. She ordered me to sit on her lap, and gave me an "air-wank" (like in air-guitar), but this could be to tease the other dude - Lets call him Fred.

She squeezed my head into her tits, because this really short guy hugged her and got his head in her tits, and i was all like 'i wanna try that too'.

But she was more confrontative with the other guy, in the way that she sat on his lap, while he laid on his back, and they were in a kind of in a riding position, with clothes on and little to no motion.


It was an very awkward presence as both me and Fred saw that the other guy wanted to fuck her, and we were like "Silent Competing" (Yay i made a new phrase, SC = Silent Competing, when two guys compete for a women but they dont say it out loud.)

He followed us wherever in the training hall we went, and i followed them. Shes a stupid cunt, so maybe she didnt figure what we were doing :P

WAT DO?
Author:  DiaZepa [ Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:57 pm ]
Post subject: 
Quote:
UPDATE

Spent time with her today, and was planning on your move, fifeguy - but something unpredicted happened. I got competition.

This dude was with us today, and he has a good natural game. Didn't pull any techniques or patterns, but will run blowjob pattern and im-attractive pattern next time.

She is kind of slutty, but he got more attention than me. She ordered me to sit on her lap, and gave me an "air-wank" (like in air-guitar), but this could be to tease the other dude - Lets call him Fred.

She squeezed my head into her tits, because this really short guy hugged her and got his head in her tits, and i was all like 'i wanna try that too'.

But she was more confrontative with the other guy, in the way that she sat on his lap, while he laid on his back, and they were in a kind of in a riding position, with clothes on and little to no motion.


It was an very awkward presence as both me and Fred saw that the other guy wanted to fuck her, and we were like "Silent Competing" (Yay i made a new phrase, SC = Silent Competing, when two guys compete for a women but they dont say it out loud.)

He followed us wherever in the training hall we went, and i followed them. Shes a stupid cunt, so maybe she didnt figure what we were doing :P

WAT DO?
She also gave me a lapdance for like 2 sec's and i felt her ass on my penis. During the air-wank she 'accidentally' touched my penis


IF I WAS UNCLEAR IN THE POST ABOVE, I WANT YOU TO TELL ME WHAT THIS SHIT MEANS
Author:  PurpleLight [ Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:43 pm ]
Post subject: 
I ended up joining the Army, and I can use that to display some alpha-male shit when it comes to it.
Author:  Two Step [ Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:02 am ]
Post subject: 
your thinking way to much. And the fact that this girl is a friends means its not happening. Sorry go find other girls
Author:  fifeguy86 [ Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:21 pm ]
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i disagree, i think you have a fighting chance.

the competition is unfortunate cos it makes her 'the prize' again. competition must be crushed by fair means or foul.

could you get a wing to occupy him for a while?

do you know him well enough to neutralise his game? if he acts certain ways towards women then point them out to her and make like you feel sorry for him.... thats just his way of trying to get accepted, he feels he has to try so hard all the time etc.

see if you can get some dirt on this guy. embarrasing stories etc. tease him in front of her. they dont even have to be true if you can get a wing to say 'i heard that rumour too'. if he starts getting pissed, this is good. hit him with shit like 'i wouldnt admit that either'. really wind him up. the more annoyed he gets the more value he loses. he may get embarrassed and bugger off. he may hit you, this is good also cos then you can kick his ass (showing your an alpha male in the process) without looking like a dick cos he hit you first when you were 'just tyring to have a laugh.'

im not great at AMOGing and dealing with competition but this is what has worked for me in past. if you dont fancy it, try posting in general questions with a problem specific subject. i would be interested in other guys response.
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