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| Author: | sanders [ Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | computer dude /athlete joins the forum |
Hi Guys ... I made it. How I got here: I was pursuaded by a friend of mine "Neo" to buy and read "The Game" (and ultimately to Join this forum). So I bought it off amazon, and there it stayed in the pile of other books I bought for months. Until one day I decided I needed to get cracking. I read it within about 7 days (mostly on the 30 min train journeyto/from work in the City of London). By the weekend I was totally entranced by it, and after waking up at about 10am one Saturday after a big night out, I decided read the whole thing. I stayed in bed right up until 4pm reading that thing, whereupon I then got up and did Youtube searches on Neil Strauss and Mystery to learn more. Strengths/Weaknesses: Now, my problem is ... I am very poor at approaches/making openings to girls. I have gone for months without making one single approach on a girl in a bar, and have gone for years be generally unsuccessful in that area. I find it very unnatural and I have a massive sense of discomfort from doing it, so any type of mild rejection or disinterest from a girl is met with big negative consequences for myself. My number is already reasonably high (around 70 I guess), but most of these girls have been as a result of me pulling very average looking girls and have also required alcohol (often far more than I would like to have). Also I seem to respond to girls that are confident enough to make the first approach on me - big tip - these are not 10's. I think my mid-game is not too bad (once I get to know someone), although I'm sure it could be much, much better and I think once I have the IOI's i'm very, very good at kiss-closing - this is where my natural skillset is. My main problem is the approach. My second problem/objective is that I want to start to take the alcohol requirement out of the whole equation. I would like to get to a point where I feel that having too much alcohol before gaming is a bad thing and I therefore drink less (See, this gaming stuff has more than one use), and I'm convinced I can do it. Far too many nights have been spent thinking I need more beer to get more confidence, and by the end of the night I'm too drunk for my own good. Experience of Gaming: After reading the book, I tried to experiment a little on openers ... just to see what would happen. I was amazed at how it empowered me - I kind of didn't really give a shit anymore as to what the outcome was. Dunno why, but it just seemed to add an element of fun, and suddenly the "rejection" aspect lost its negative power. It was kind of like trying to play a trick on someone and seeing if I could get away with it rather than trying to hang my integrity on a few AFC lines - there seemed to be less emotion at stake, and it turned into a Game rather than a big challenge. My key line that first night was something along the lines of: "Hey can I ask you girls something? I'm getting grief from my mates over there for wearing white shoes - do you think they are cool on a guy or not?" There wasn't much thought behind it - I was wearing white shoes that night and it just seemed like a good opener - esp since women always are interested in fashion, and have a fashion opinion. It seemed to work well, but I very quickly found myself lacking in the next skillset - showing social value. Where Am I now: So - here I am looking for ideas, and wanting to be part of the community. I think I'm generally quite a good listener, and although I like a good laugh I'm not a comedien or a magician, so my initial thought for showing some social value was that I should learn some body language techniques. So I'm reading a book at the moment. Anyway - if you guys are still reading - Hello, and I look forward to chatting with you all further. |
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| Author: | Neo X [ Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:49 pm ] |
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Great that you joined Sanders! We are gonna have sooooo much fun winging each other on sarges. For everyone else's info, me and Sanders have known each other for years and have been on plenty of nights out drinking and going on the pull without any 'game' apart from our natural abilities, so nothing formally learned, just our own life experiences of trial and error with girls, just like every other AFC out there. We're not bad looking guys and Sanders is pretty buff, I go through stages of being buff/thin/buff/thin, and we've had our fair share of women, often (as Sanders mentioned) involving lots of drink, lots of getting smashed and complete carnage, which has resulted in "like-minded" girls becoming interested in us. Obviously, not the kind of girls you'd want to take home to your mother. But we had lots of fun nonetheless. A few of my friends have met Sanders through me and they all say the same - he's a very personable approachable nice genuine guy. And I notice girls take to him like a duck to water. I think Sanders has a naturally kind persona and this is appealing to girls. He just needs to realise this and get over his approach confidence issues and it'll be a sprint to the finish line as it were! I don't think Sanders would suit the cocky funny techniques, prob more the Mystery Method as I can see Sanders mind-reading girls and demonstrating value through tricks, magick and ESP quite easily. Welcome to the forum Sanders, and let's get a sarge on soon in toon! |
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