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Author:  I'm a boy [ Tue Sep 09, 2008 6:20 pm ]
Post subject:  What do you do when you're feeling like everybody hates you?
Hi :)

Thats right, what on earth do you do when you're feeling like everybody hates you? Even yourself! And you truly, deeply believe that it's a fact...?

I'm a 16 year old boy from Oslo, Norway. It's been a year or so since I first began looking for help in picking up women. It started with a few articles here and there, then it went on to Ross Jeffries, before; in July, it eventually led me to the term PUA and this forum.

So, since that happened, I've been reading e-books, watching movies etc. And I'm really into the Mystery Method. It just makes perfect sense and it's very, hmm, scientific :) I've just began gaming around and one of the things I've improved drastically is my self-confidence. But...

Problem:

I guess I could've told you everybody hates me, but really, that would get neither of us anywhere. So I'll be more specific ;)

I always feel like I'm being to needy. Truly. Always. And I really don't know what to do about it. I wanna be the guy who's constantly surrounded by boys and girls. Not the chasing one. But, I really don't know what to do. So, so often, I'm sitting down with some of the people from my class and I'm just stuck. And I'm stuck because I really, really believe I'm looking needy.

Problem #2:

Related to the above. However, I decided to isolate this one. Fact:
I'm 100% shure people see me as a weird person, and I can even understand them. I'm not James Bond, but Carlton from Fresh Prince. I'm too lively. What to do about this? I cannot be boring, so I'm always trying to impress the other boys in the class. At the same time, I agree, I've got a boring life. School, home. School, home. School, home. Everyday.

I must achieve an interesting life. However, I can't achieve an interesting life when I'm not able to game or become a social god. And, I can't game or become a social God when I'm having a boring life.

It's really hard to explain all this in such few words, so feel free to ask me for details :)
Author:  danieltx [ Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:21 pm ]
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I didn't read your entire post word for word because I don't need to in order to give you some advice. First, you are not special enough to be hated by everyone. Random people, people at school, etc. could care less about you one way or the other. Second, if you're 100% sure people see you as a weird person, then you're going to make yourself fit with that (hence be a weird person). Stop believing that and manifest that change outwardly. If you have a boring life where all you do is go to school and go home then make your life interesting. You have to take the initiative to rid your life of boredom, it's not just going to walk away by itself. Go hang out with your friends, play a sport, go to the mall, go to parties, there's tons of things you could be doing. But part of it is probably just your age too, give it another year or two and you'll see shit ain't that bad.
Author:  TheGunner [ Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:20 pm ]
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daniel's spot on,

you first need to kick all these negative thoughts out of your head, because your thoughts imprint themselves into your subconscious, and manifest into reality.

i'm sure you've known people who think like that, then all the time ask, "Do you hate me?" or say some other thing that shows they feel sorry for themselves.

dude, the first thing you must do, is to start feeling good about yourself!
Author:  The_Jimi [ Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:12 pm ]
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This reminds me of I time I was in class sitting next to this hot chick and our professor played this film called the 14 characteristics of a serial killer.

as a joke I told her I had 11 of the 14.

she took it seriously........needless to say I never got her number....LOL :lol:
Author:  TheGunner [ Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:56 am ]
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This reminds me of I time I was in class sitting next to this hot chick and our professor played this film called the 14 characteristics of a serial killer.

as a joke I told her I had 11 of the 14.

she took it seriously........needless to say I never got her number....LOL :lol:
Did you forget to add a smile at the end? :D
Author:  I'm a boy [ Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:35 pm ]
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I didn't read your entire post word for word because I don't need to in order to give you some advice. First, you are not special enough to be hated by everyone. Random people, people at school, etc. could care less about you one way or the other. Second, if you're 100% sure people see you as a weird person, then you're going to make yourself fit with that (hence be a weird person). Stop believing that and manifest that change outwardly. If you have a boring life where all you do is go to school and go home then make your life interesting. You have to take the initiative to rid your life of boredom, it's not just going to walk away by itself. Go hang out with your friends, play a sport, go to the mall, go to parties, there's tons of things you could be doing. But part of it is probably just your age too, give it another year or two and you'll see shit ain't that bad.
Thanks!
But I'm not THAT boring and that's why I can't understand. I play in a band, I play piano, drums, guitar, flute, I even sing. I go to parties. I've got loads of friends. I exercise; both cycling and jogging. My stomach too. I eat healthy. I look good to myself. I'm funny. I'm cocky. I love to dance even though I suck at it. I have 3 older siblings, all of them great. 2 great parents, still married and hanging in there. In addition to music, I've got my 2nd biggest passion: Manchester United and football in general. I've got plenty of knowledge. I love to learn. In fact, I'm living a great life. But, when I'm with people, the only thing I do is thinking about what other people might think of me.

I feel like I'm not truly connected to anybody. With EVERY single person; guy or women, I feel a difference in value. It's not theirs being higher than mine, nor mine being higher then theirs. It's just... different. I feel left out.
It doesn't matter if I'm having a great time at school, which I very often have. It doesn't matter if I'm laughing like shit with my friends, both girls and boys. It wouldn't matter if I made out with one of the cute girls at school. I STILL FEEL LEFT OUT, DIFFERENT AND THEREFORE WEIRD.

I really, really don't have a clue on how to solve this.

Thanks for the answers, I hope there's more to come :)
Author:  danieltx [ Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:08 pm ]
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Thanks!
But I'm not THAT boring and that's why I can't understand. I play in a band, I play piano, drums, guitar, flute, I even sing. I go to parties. I've got loads of friends. I exercise; both cycling and jogging. My stomach too. I eat healthy. I look good to myself. I'm funny. I'm cocky. I love to dance even though I suck at it. I have 3 older siblings, all of them great. 2 great parents, still married and hanging in there. In addition to music, I've got my 2nd biggest passion: Manchester United and football in general. I've got plenty of knowledge. I love to learn. In fact, I'm living a great life. But, when I'm with people, the only thing I do is thinking about what other people might think of me.

I feel like I'm not truly connected to anybody. With EVERY single person; guy or women, I feel a difference in value. It's not theirs being higher than mine, nor mine being higher then theirs. It's just... different. I feel left out.
It doesn't matter if I'm having a great time at school, which I very often have. It doesn't matter if I'm laughing like shit with my friends, both girls and boys. It wouldn't matter if I made out with one of the cute girls at school. I STILL FEEL LEFT OUT, DIFFERENT AND THEREFORE WEIRD.

I really, really don't have a clue on how to solve this.

Thanks for the answers, I hope there's more to come :)
Dude, look at that first paragraph you wrote. It sounds like you have a great life and are happy with yourself. A lot of people in the world don't have that. There's absolutely no reason for you to feel weird.

Stop worrying about what other people think of you! What someone else thinks has no bearing on you. Their thoughts can't harm you. I mean you're not a mind reader so you can't tell what they're thinking at all, so it really doesn't matter. In fact, with how you say your life is, most people are probably thinking, "Damn, I wish I had all that going on in my life".

Like I said in my first post, you are not special enough for everybody you're around to always be thinking something about you, none of us are. Let go of all that bullshit and just live your life and have a fun time. I'd also recommend that you watch the movie Fight Club if you haven't seen it. It had a profound effect on me when I was younger. Send me a PM if you want to talk more.
Author:  Dr.K [ Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:13 am ]
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Thanks!
But I'm not THAT boring and that's why I can't understand. I play in a band, I play piano, drums, guitar, flute, I even sing. I go to parties. I've got loads of friends. I exercise; both cycling and jogging. My stomach too. I eat healthy. I look good to myself. I'm funny. I'm cocky. I love to dance even though I suck at it. I have 3 older siblings, all of them great. 2 great parents, still married and hanging in there. In addition to music, I've got my 2nd biggest passion: Manchester United and football in general. I've got plenty of knowledge. I love to learn. In fact, I'm living a great life. But, when I'm with people, the only thing I do is thinking about what other people might think of me.

I feel like I'm not truly connected to anybody. With EVERY single person; guy or women, I feel a difference in value. It's not theirs being higher than mine, nor mine being higher then theirs. It's just... different. I feel left out.
It doesn't matter if I'm having a great time at school, which I very often have. It doesn't matter if I'm laughing like shit with my friends, both girls and boys. It wouldn't matter if I made out with one of the cute girls at school. I STILL FEEL LEFT OUT, DIFFERENT AND THEREFORE WEIRD.

I really, really don't have a clue on how to solve this.

Thanks for the answers, I hope there's more to come :)
Like Danieltx said, it sounds more like it's a problem with your perception of yourself rather than what other people are really seeing you as. Not only that, but I'm sure a lot of guys your age are feeling the same way, dude. It's part of being your age and trying to find your place in the world. If you work on getting your confidence and "alpha-ness" up, by the time you're 18 you could be THE MAN.
First thing I'd do is stop supporting Manchester United and start supporting a good side, like Liverpool :P
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