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Author:  TheLionWithin [ Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:46 am ]
Post subject:  The Lion Purrs

Lions don't purr! So if you clicked here just to tell me that...

Hey guys,

It was actually my ex girlfriend who opened my eyes to pickup, a year and a half ago. I was settling for her, I was honest and let her know all along, she clung on for two years because I was so non-needy and I perceived my value to be so high relative to hers (if only it were emotionally that easy to do the same damned thing with a 10), we even opened our relationship, but I still couldn't get laid, and I'm a fairly handsome guy. I don't work out, but I'm what they call tall, dark and handsome, I'm intelligent, I'm even amazing in bed, yet I had no game. I was a natural at passion, making out and sex when I got lucky, but ironically, this sexual confidence was not enough to get me laid consistently. Even very recently, in fact, women have tended to assume I was gay or green in bed. I guess if I had to pick one or the other, I'd rather be the guy who always pleasantly surprises women and gives them new experiences no matter how experienced they are, than the guy who has more women than he knows how to deal with. Although I'd like the first as well. And younger, and hotter.

The majority of my sexual experiences, even after joining the game, have been with cougars. That's one reason my sexual confidence is so high, though I want to show some of these young hotties how it's done now. One thing that does help me at least flirt decently sometimes with younger women, is when I think of them as a baby compared to some of the women I've been with. As far as young cute girls, I've gotten plenty of numbers, almost all of which have gone nowhere at all. Never any fake numbers, but either she doesn't return my call or text at all, or she'll stop short of actually meeting me for a date. In other words, they're not addicted to me, jumping head over heels to date or fuck me. Except for the cougars, that is. And even though they might not require any level of game resembling what it takes to get a young 10, I do have to be thankful for the sexual experience they've given me.

So a bit about me other than my limited PU experience:

-I love Renaissance music. I used to sing it semiprofessionally in a group that would perform at Renaissance fairs and private parties, and for whomever was crazy enough to hire a bunch of guys in tights and women in $20,000 authentic dresses of nobility to sing for them.

-I love computer games. I've got an obsessive personality, and pickup pretty much filled the void and has been immensely better for me than computer games. I was hooked on World of Warcraft, and loved oldschool Final Fantasy and Zelda, as well as newer RPGs like Oblivion and Skyrim, despite the problems they had. Recently, I fell into a rut in which I got sucked back into some indy RPGs, lost my job (it's just an entry level grocery store job), sacrificed my social life, dropped out of my social dance classes, stopped picking up women, and basically went back to having no life. It's amazing how easy it is to lose everything, but if Mystery's been there, I can pull myself back out as well. I have the tools now. I'm a socially intelligent man now, not the boy I used to be.

-I love to act. Some of my favorite times ever were in late middle / early high school when I got into theater. That's when I actually started learning the first things about pickup, about inner game and expressiveness, without knowing what they were or that they could help me get women. All the theater girls would be oohing and ahhing over me, and they were wasted years, because in PUA lingo, I had roomfulls of IOIs, I had ridiculous preselection that included just about every girl around me, I had the hottest one come up and her friend introduced her saying "Justine is kinda shy because she thinks you're cute," and all I wanted to do was teleport back to the safety of my mommy. I didn't have the courage to make a move the entire time. I also didn't even have the courage to settle for a cute blonde who had been puppy-dogging me around to theater classes months later! You can see just one of the many reasons I had to get in the Game, after taking the leap of faith necessary to entertain that it actually worked and wasn't a scam.

Now guys, these cougars have told me shit like how my game couldn't be any better, and I need to work on other parts of my life now. I'd have to say, I agree with the second part, and I'm glad to see that the Venusian Arts Handbook addresses the importance of balance in ones' life, but we all know that the opinion of a few women doesn't make someone a good pickup artist. It's like how you can look at several Olympic gymnasts, back to back, and think they all look equally amazing, whereas they're acutely aware of every little piece between themselves and unattainable perfection. And I'd be a keyboard jockey and full of shit if I called myself an Olympic level PUA. It's funny how women will rationalize whatever their emotions tell them should be the truth. If a woman is particularly insecure and can't handle her jealousy towards me, I know comments like that are motivated by her strong emotional desire to own me. I learned recently why I stay away from the insecure and damaged ones, when one was falling for me after fucking her a few times and she threatened suicide, so I called the cops and left without a trace.

After a fit of rage over not getting laid (with a hottie), my poor ex did the unthinkable: she thought to Google "pickup artist" for me. The first one she found was Gambler. I'd never heard of the community, and I didn't know how legit it was, so I was definitely worried it was a scam. If it hadn't been for my ex, I would never have taken the red pill and jumped out of the social matrix of lies men are force-fed in this society. Reluctantly and holding her hand, I clicked 'buy' on Gambler's latest "Too Good to be True" sounding deal. I started with Stealth Attraction, which dropped my jaws. I had no idea about the Mystery Method on which it was loosely based (though with its own twist). I proceeded with "Ultimate Natural Game." Then I watched Kezia's "Deep Connection" and "10 Hook Lead System." I felt like I had enough, at this point, to go out and start practicing. The first night ever, I went out with my wing girl (ahem, my girlfriend - no, my friend and we go waaaay back :P) I was too chicken to go out without my 5 of a girlfriend to give me the confidence I needed. It was...

You know what, guys? I'm gonna have to save that story for another time. This post is getting way too long already. I just wanted to introduce myself and say the journey has been life-changing for me so far, and I rest easy at night knowing I have a bright future with women. Though I am still but a novice given the low frequency with which I approach, I feel like I have a lot to offer the community as far as unique styles and outlooks. For instance, there are some older guys I know who are looking for a woman not too much younger than them. I've been the guy these women have cheated on behind their husbands' back. I've given them both the sex and the emotional connection they were missing. Guess what? Did you know that emotional connection is actually the #1 reason women cheat, according to recent studies, and sex is #2? Well, I may still be green at getting in with a woman, but once I get in, they fall fast. Sometimes it's within a week that they say "I love you," and this trend started before I even got into the game. I also have not learned any NLP or hypnosis. I know how to give them that emotional connection, that romance, and that no-holds-barred sex that other guys are too chicken to give. Looking forward to trading advice on here.

Cheers,
The Lion

PS Let me know if anyone else is using some variant of The Lion. It's cool because I'm a Leo and identify strongly with the creative, passionate and sexually intense attributes of one. Damnit to Phoenix for taking my first choice of names. One thing he didn't mention is that the phoenix, in Renaissance times, was the symbol for the process of orgasm, which died only to be reborn again.

Author:  50ShadesOfDance [ Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Lion Purrs

Welcome! You've done some great work already, and the different courses and resources you've listed are interesting... I hadn't know about Kezia's stuff. You seem to have a great "learning-focused" attitude, which I think is key to getting anywhere with the game.

I'll be looking forward to hearing more of your story and seeing you progress in skill. That's where I'm at, so I'll be interested to learn from everything you post.

Cheers, ~50

Author:  TheLionWithin [ Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The Lion Purrs

Thanks mate, it's good to have a warm welcome, and I can definitely vouch for the effect of dance on my overall game. The way you lead a woman on the dance floor perfectly mirrors the way you lead her through all the stages of a pickup. It also specifically helps you improve and get more comfortable with your kino. What I did is I signed up for two dance classes at a local community college. One was called "Ethnic Dance" but focused on just Latin (Salsa, bachata, merengue, cha cha). The other was called "Social and Ballroom Dance" and taught Swing and Waltz among others. These days, what I'll do at a local karaoke bar is I'll be there with my pivot, and when a song comes on that can be Swing danced to, I will open a set by approaching an obstacle and saying "Do you know how to Swing?" If she seems shy, I'll say "Don't worry, I'll teach you" and present my hands, teach her the basic step and get her in the feel of it, and then do some spins and turns with her, take her into "cuddle" position and so on. Only then do I go into the group, who loves me already, I've impressed the whole bar with my balls, and I ask them how they know each other and mostly build fun rapport. You can use routines here if you're not comfortable being natural yet. Then it's easy to just go up to the target and proceed as normal.

As far as Kezia's stuff, it was inspiring to me just to have a woman stand behind this stuff, teach it to guys, and even innovate herself putting a female perspective into it. I'll admit, I have not practiced the 10 hook lead system enough to get natural with it and test its full potential. It's a system for having a good conversation without relying on routines (though she says feel free to layer routines on it), with a lot of the built-in elements that the community teaches, like presenting a challenge and manipulating her need for validation. It just seems like a lot of practice to master it, to where the conversations start seeming as smooth as (and more interesting than) "natural" conversations would. Anyone had any experience with it?

Author:  TheLionWithin [ Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The Lion Purrs

PS I just discovered there's already Lion and TheLion here, whereas Phoenix has only made one post (in 2006), and that's my first choice as a PUA name. Is there any way to change my name before I get too entrenched with an identity?

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