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Author:	DiGiT [ Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:08 pm ]
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Hi, i'm DiGiT. I'm 22 years old and still... a virgin. I found this site after i read the book the game (like most of you probably) and seen some youtube videos of puas. It saddens me that i got to this point and now need the help of a community to get laid, but here i am. Most of my life i was addicted to computer games and finally managed to quit for good. I've been in 2 situations in my life where i think i could get lucky if i actually had the right tools or the balls to go for it. Both times the girl was the aggressor. My short term goal is to get laid before i turn 23. I hope this is the right place to look for help.

Author:	AznPersuasion [ Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:22 pm ]
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Alright, dude, take a breath, step back, and realize that you've got to start somewhere. It's not shameful to ask for help with women in an online community. It's a way to help you grow, and there are plenty of us here who started out just as bad or worse than you. Personally, I didn't start hearing about "the game" or any of the associated terminology until one of my close friends decided it was high-time I got laid. He started to "train" me in the art of pick-up. My stance on "the game" may or may not differ from what is considered normal, but in my opinion, it's not about the women or getting laid. It's about getting you to be a confident, assertive version of yourself who can and will conquer whatever is thrown into your path. Cruise the forum a bit. I would start with inner game and learning about state. If you are really lost, try learning some routines and canned material until you're comfortable with moving on. I don't use canned material anymore, but it sure as hell helped me to overcome a lot of my personal obstacles. If you have questions, stories, or just want to chat, I'm around on the forum, and I will answer my PM's. I'll help you as much as I can, as will everyone else here! It's a great support network, so use it! Remember, the best way to learn is through experience, so go out there and FAIL, FAIL, FAIL. It's the only way to truly internalize the knowledge you're applying and truly digest it. Good luck out there!

Author:	DiGiT [ Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:32 pm ]
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Thanks dude, i think for me it's mostly a confidence issue around women. I'll read what i can find and probably post my stories to get some tips on what i did wrong.

Author:	hawksterG [ Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:38 pm ]
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Whats your typical outfit and appearance if you don't mind me asking? Are you in school? Do you have friends that are naturals? Whats your situation?

Author:	diaoman [ Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:47 pm ]
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If you wanna get laid, try out the "60 years of challenge" method.

Author:	DiGiT [ Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:00 pm ]
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I'm pretty tall 1.91m, pale and not all that muscly, started training 2 weeks ago. It's really hard for me to assess my looks, but i guess i'm neither really ugly or really good looking (because girls would hit on me if i was). I finished school, currently working as a programmer. Most of my close friends are probably worse than i am. I know where i stand and try to approach a girl in a club or a bar now and then. Most of them got this delusion that if they wanted to they could get girls but they don't want to do anything. Sometimes i have to use money to motivate them to approach a girl. Like if you go to this girl i'll give you $$$. I noticed that it really helps my confidence because when i approach a girl i make myself believe its about the money not her. Some of my friends have a gf so they're fine. non of them are naturals. I usually go out with jeans and a button shirt.

Author:	hawksterG [ Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:11 pm ]
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You're lucky you're tall buddy, thats a plus. Not being muscular isn't that bad. Just make sure you're well groomed. Get a dark blazer, a nice fitted one. Thats going to do wonders. Doesn't have to be expensive. If girls ask what you do, just say IT. And then you can reply by: "No, I ain't going to fix your computer for you. lol" After that, master cocky and funny. I've been a natural but what I find helps is watching a lot of stand up comedy. It helps you learn how to generally be funny and how you convey a message. If you're just starting out, you're probably not going to get laid quick, you just want to develop that persona where you don't give a damn and you're just out to have a good time. And then things naturally fall into place with girls.

Author:	Great 1ne [ Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:55 pm ]
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Since I'm new to this, also, I'm only going to focus on one part of your post that really stuck out to me-"online gaming." Dude, don't be embarrassed of that. I play games all the time. I use to be one of the best in the world at the xbox live phenomenon, Gears of War. At my apartment, I have posters up of my favorite superheros (captain america) and others. I have my Gears of War 3 limited edition set up on my bookshelf as sort of a shrine, and have all 9 seasons of dragonball z lined up to show off to everyone. Be who you are and make it work. Break down whatever stereotypes you believe in. I've worked out everyday for two years since coming to college. I dedicate about 2-3 hours each day to cardio and weight lifting. I'm in there longer than some bodybuilders (which I am not by any means) but I still can come back, play xbox, WoW, or read comic books. That stuff is not affecting what girls you are or are not getting with. Don't give up the stuff you love just cause you're in a tough spot with the women.

Author:	DiGiT [ Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:39 am ]
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I wasn't ashamed of being a gamer, but it was consuming my life and always seemed like the no1 priority to me. I tried playing less hours, but it didn't really work. For me cutting it off completely was the only option.

Author:	rakeal [ Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:06 am ]
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Quote: i'm neither really ugly or really good looking (because girls would hit on me if i was). Women don't tend to hit on men so that is no gauge. And earlier you said you've had aggressive women. Women like men who are stable in mind, body, character, finance, mood. You seem to be intelligent and have a good career. You aren't hideous. You should be pulling decent women regularly. How do you normally act around women? Be as honest as you can. Either you are too shy, or too needy. Since you've had aggressive women chasing you, I'd guess too shy. You probably have women sending you signals constantly yet you never notice. Those aggressive ones are the few that threw away the subtlety and went for the gusto. I bet 99% gave up. If you want to get laid. Find a women who already knows you who you find attractive. She doesn't have to be perfect as long as she does it for you. Simply find an excuse to get her alone and sit real close to her. Watch a movie or something. And begin with the touching, kissing. Don't ask, just do it. If she wasn't interested she wouldn't be there. It's not as hard as you think. There are willing women trust me. The funny thing is I can guarantee there are women in your life who are just waiting. Those aggressive women. Send them each a message. "Hey, come over. I have something to show you." if she asks what say: "It's a surprise, just come over, we'll watch a movie too" This is code for I want a booty call. It's so obvious it's ridiculous but that's the point. Now this isn't "game" so to speak, I'm just telling you how to get laid like tonight. Don't try that on women you just met. It's for women who keep advancing you or who you've slept with in the past. It does work though. Not because it's smooth or anything but because you are giving them the opportunity to take what they want.

Author:	DiGiT [ Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:00 am ]
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Yeah, i'm usually very shy around women. I don't have that many female friends. I could probably list 3, one of them is married. I would also really rather go with someone my friends don't know, because it's just too embarrassing if they do. I posted a field report about one of my fuckups in Germany. I can't post links, but it's on the field reports forum.

Author:	rakeal [ Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:28 am ]
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You're really going to have to get over the embarrassment. In this day and age there is nothing people can say if you choose to have a woman in your life. It's a free society. Something as normal as sex shouldn't be embarrassing. I can tell you probably were raised to respect women and be conservative. You are in a far better situation than me. Women in my area know what I am about. I'd love a fresh start like you. You should start by simply saying hello to women. Start getting excited about it. You already did some research so I'm not going to go into details. It's now a matter of actually going out and doing it. Try doing cold approaches with women you will never see again. That way it's ok if you mess up. Try what ever you like. Treat it like a video game. From experience. Nothing happens. Either she likes you and you get a woman, or she doesn't and you made her day. Put a suit and tie on and tell women you are a programmer and watch what happens. Try direct at first as practice. Direct requires some value or some balls and charm. Pay attention to your tonality and body language more than what you say. The advice I am giving you isn't "game" I want you to walk up to women and say. "Hi my name is so and so" The point is not to get the woman. It's to learn about yourself and how you act around women. You need to desensitize yourself a little bit. Then concentrate on tactics. Routines if you chose that route. Dude you are a programmer, you have value. I am unemployed and live with my mother and I have a hb 10 driving 400km to see me and give me a "present". I get turned down all the f'n time. Just get used to it. You are going to get turned down with the advice I gave you but that is the whole point. It won't be so scary once you get rejected a few times.

Author:	In$tinct [ Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:36 am ]
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If your short term goal is to get laid really 60 years of challenge is for you. It will get you laid... That's for sure. But after that you really should focus more on developing yourself, especially your inner game. Don't worry bro, most of us have been where you are.

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