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Author:  ignite777 [ Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:23 am ]
Post subject:  new here (huge AFC, all about to change)

hi, i'm a frustrated 25 year old from the UK glad to be here. relieved that now i have found this site i am going to finally have some success in this seemingly mind-boggling and complex art of picking up women and getting laid.

i can shake off the AFC status once and for all! a term i've only just become familiar with. it totally fits my current self to a tee, unfortunately.

i feel as though i've have a criminally low amount of pussy in my time. i've slept with about 7 different girls total and two of them were prostitutes.

i've had three long term girlfriends but only had sex with a them a handful of times except the last. which brings me onto...

the extreme sexual frustration i am experiencing. so extreme it completely consumes me and my mind is focused on nothing other than the desire to have sex. a desire that i'm sure is shared with all my fellow counterparts. one thing's for sure though the consistent lack of is the absolute worst frustrating feeling, especially when you see so many attractive girls everywhere and seems like everyone but you is at it.

it's now been 3 years+ without a lay and the ridiculous fact that i am struggling to come to terms with is for about one of those years i had a girlfriend. and an extremely attractive one at that. "what??" i hear you ask in amazement. yes that's right, i went out with a really hot girl for a year and didn't make a single move on her in all that time despite looking her many hints and the many many opportunities i had to do so. i was way too shy/timid/nervous/scared. a textbook afc.

she came round to my flat several times a week. how much more a hint did i need? to top things off she called me up 2 weeks after breaking up with me to tell me that she'd had a one night stand with one of her female acquaintances. that was f***ing brutal to deal with. i'd been thinking she was frigid all that time highlighting a major communication issue. i should mention that we were fucked on k for the majority of the times we spent together. despite this obviously being a major hindrance (messy messy times) this still should have been no excuse.

this was about 7 months ago and the whole issue is STILL wrecking havoc with my sanity. it even brings me to tears frequently.

she and the bitter feelings of regret just won't leave my mind no matter what. i initially recognized it as heartbreak yet it's turned into major major oneitis. argh. i know if i was getting some it wouldn't bother me at all.

right, so enough ranting. what am i going to do about it? that's where this site and you the community of experts come in. i have a few thoughts and questions on this area.

what bugs me about talking to girls (and people in general actually) is having so little to say. my mind goes blank. i have so little to say at the best of times anyway. it's very rare that i'll say more than a couple of sentences in one utterance. part of it is having a fear of having the spotlight of the conversation for too long. the other part is simply not being able to construct any more sentences than that on the spot. conversations that i have had with girls have very rarely gone beyond the usual fluff. if they have it's them doing 90%+ of the talking with me saying the usual 'oh i see'/laughing/whatever filler. basically solely being a listener.

so i ask can an extremely quiet person like myself still becoming a successful pua? is it possible to learn to be talkative? is there stuff one can do to improve in this area? or is it simply a case of having a pre-learned arsenal of scripts? if the latter it seems as though it would be hard to come off as natural this way.

i understand that increasing confidence can help a great deal. i'm unemployed so getting a job would get me out there. i'm internet bound for most of my time as things are.

also getting in shape and eating and sleeping properly i know will make a huge difference.

would be interested to hear thoughts one how much improvement is possible for such meek, quiet people. is the potential to be a master pua in everyone.

lastly i've banned myself from porn and masturbation until i get laid to increase my motivation.

thanks for taking the time to read (if you did)

what a sex-deprived insecure pussy huh?. pussies don't get pussy!

no more no more

peace

Author:  Frecks [ Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:29 am ]
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Do what I did when I started studying. That is, THROW YOURSELF INTO THE WORLD. Do all of the challenges on this forum and learn not so much about the female world yet, learn about yourself first.
Don't every disqualify yourself. Always talk to anyone you can be it a janitor or an HB 10. You might fail at first but, with time, game and mistakes are learned.

Author:  xZEROx [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:14 pm ]
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Slightly touched by your subject, that and my brothers emotional music i can hear combined in my mind lol.

And yes of course very shy guys can become great with women, in fact they often become the best, the reason i think is due to leverage, they have more emotional leverage, therefore more motivation to change. Many of the best pua's had horrible backgrounds with women and massive social anxiety - gambler, tyler durdan etc.

I would say this to get you started, find women somewhere anywhere e.g cafes, bars, streets, nightclub, go out and approach/ interact with them to practice and do this a fucking lot, basically the more you practice the better you get.

Skip MM lovesystems and look at natural game stuff, or natural game combined with techniques. I would get a few conversational pieces to start off though, just some basic stuff to get you going, a few openers, a few stories to tell (your own) and a few funny games to play with girls. (That is my take anyway)

good luck

Author:  ClowdHopper [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:56 pm ]
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Hey man, i feel you.. i think to some degree we've all been in your shoes.

Firstly, i think the whole "rebirth" you're going through is tight, every person should do this -> completely reassess their life and ask themselves, who am i? and who do i want to be?

Your approach at getting into shape (i assume exercising), eating healthier, cutting out porn and masturbation, and trying to sleep better are all awesome, just doing this will raise your energy and libido so much more man, i can't tell you how many people spend all day sitting down and whacking it to the newest videos on their favorite pornsite. This in my opinion is a much needed cleanse, oh and you mentioned you were high on K with the ex? drugs are the same as all that other bad shit, i can't tell you how much my life got better when i quit smoking, snorting, and drinking... suddenly i realized i didn't have to feel tired all the time, haha.

As for learning what to say in everyday situations, there are plenty of routines (openers, negs, stories, etc) that you can get from this site and later use to improvise your own. everyone has trouble talking to others at first, always in their head about what to day next but that really comes with practice and for that you should try talking to random strangers for a bit (doesn't even have to be just girls it could be guys too). when you're waiting for a bus, or at work, or on the street you can throw in a comment or something and just get comfortable talking with people you don't know, then later you can start trying to build conversations but first you have to get out of that shell you've built... assuming that's what you want, right?

Overall the game is just an excellent way of meeting new people and learning how to be yourself comfortably in any social situation, it all comes with time and practice. so just remember to have fun while doing it and always maintain a positive attitude. Welcome to the community bro.

Cheers, Clowd.

Author:  Tiffany [ Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:58 am ]
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Welcome to the forum and hope you enjoy your stay here.

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