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Author:  killermunkyz [ Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:37 am ]
Post subject:  New to PUA. Needs advice badly.
Hi, I'm Killermunky. I'm from Crown Point, IN USA which is really close to Chicago. I'm 27. I play guitar and I'm really into MMA.

I'm on here looking for advice and some wings.

I have trouble finding wings because I grew up pretty religious, so most of my friends are really religious as well. They don't drink, or go to clubs and generally would disapprove of the whole PUA thing. Basically they're a bunch of AFC's, and they want to keep me down with them. It's the same with my family. They don't want me to hook up. They want me to "wait" for God "to bring me the right woman" who will be perfect for me, date her, then marry her, then have sex just with her for the rest of my life. Sex is just reproduction to them. Fuck that shit. I want to fucking get laid.

I don't want to end up like my dad: unhappily married to the first attractive woman who would say yes to him staying in it for the kids. I don't even really know what I like since I've only really seriously dated one woman in my life, so me repeating history is a real possibility. I was a virgin until I was 25 and that was luck not PUA. She was awesome in bed but fugly and kind of bipolar. After that I fucked a stripper. That was also luck too. Haven't had sex since. So it's been 2 years.

I've been reading PUA stuff since I was in my early 20's. Even a little bit when I was younger, but I was still really religious then, so I was really limiting myself with what I used and how I used it. Now I really don't hold to a religion strictly, so I'm trying everything.

My most recent success was gaming a stripper (not the one I fucked) and getting her number. Fucked up the text game. Fucking strippers is a huge goal of mine. I want to get the girls no other guys can. And I spent alot of money on strippers in the past, so I feel like I deserve some stripper pussy. I don't want to limit myself though. I want to be able to fuck any girl I want.

My obstacles I really need help with:
1. Inner game. I've been working on this with alot of David DeAngelo's stuff, and some of Carlos Xuma's stuff. I still have issues with approach anxiety and fear of rejection.

2. I think the first problem is partially due to my second problem. I'm 27 and living with my extremely religious parents and am out of work. I'm working on this. I'm going back to school, and looking for work, but my living situation makes getting laid seem almost impossible to me. Being almost broke doesn't help either. If anyone can tell me how to make this situation work I will owe you big time!

3. I'm over being a nice guy. Unfortunately I hate being an asshole to get girls to like me. I'd rather have girls like me for me without compromsing my integrity and personal sense of morality. This probably is tied to my faith too.

HELP!
Author:  rymer [ Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:56 am ]
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Hey and welcome to the forums! Here's my advice.

1. Approach anxiety and fear of rejection, are two major obstacles to most guys. In order to overcome them, you need to practice. Most of the PUA I've read or heard suggest that you pick a place, and go there every week, at the same time, to practice and pick up girls. You will become better as time passes, hey there are a LOT of girls in the world, so that means a lot of practice.

2. Being with your parents does suck, but being broke sucks more. I suggest you get a job as soon as you can. Although is not necessary to have a job to get laid, it sure helps to have some money, at least to pay a motel room or something. There are ways you can get laid while being broke, you can go to the girls house for instance, or to some friend's appartment while he's away. Can't help you much on that.

3. You don't have to be an asshole, you just need to be cocky and funny. Being cocky and funny is not the same as being an asshole. You are just making the girl laugh at your funny comments. That's all there's to it. So you should change that way of thinking. But that's just what I think.

There are a lot of cool techniques and experiences written on this forum. Make good use of them, learn step by step, and try to become better everyday. Hope this helped.
Author:  Entourages [ Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:59 am ]
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Welcome to the site and hope we can help. I am in the same boat as you (religious aspect) but I am only 18.

Just practice day gaming and mastering that. Just keep working on your game. Get rid of AA and build your inner confidence.
Author:  EddieFews [ Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:17 pm ]
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Read my signature
Author:  Entourages [ Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:59 am ]
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Read my signature
never read that before but haha that was hilarious kinda like an m.nshamalyanananada movie lol
Author:  killermunkyz [ Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Thanks! You guys are awesome.
Thanks for all the advice. I'm going out tonight. Hopefully I'll have some more success. The goal is 3 numbers/emails.

@ raphael.rapport

I'm very interested in how your faith connects with PUA. So far you are the only PUA besides me I've ever heard of who has a "faith" obstacle. I'd love to talk with you about this more. I believe that religion is really confusing alot of men about sexuality and dating. I want to shed light on the subject. I'm no saint for sure, but people like you and me might be able to help them eventually. I still hold to my faith but have thrown out alot of what I consider misinterpretations of scripture.

@ fuze

Dude, that signature rocks. Thanks. I know alot of inner game stuff like NLP and SA Hypnotism. Unfortunately I hardly use it. But it's sometimes as simple as realizing it's all in my head. It's all mind games. I gotta master my mind.

I call these realizations Matrix Moments. It's like when Neo wakes up and finally realizes what his reality really was. Powerful stuff. Thanks.

@ rymer

Dude thanks for all the awesome advice! This is going to help alot.

CF is hard for me. Because of my faith I was raised to be humble, so even pretending to be cocky is kind of difficult. I either go too cocky and not enough funny or too goofy/funny and not enough cocky. How do you balance this out?

I've seen naturals use CF all the time but it only works on a certain type of woman. If she's the type who's looking for a relationship it will probably turn her off. I'd been working exclusively with Christian girls for a long time because the Bible forbids dating outside your faith, and I've found this is especially true with them (if they are even slightly serious about their faith). They usually just want a ring. I want to be able to get one of these girls as well as one of the girls at a club.

The money thing's a problem. There's not much work out here. I always told myself I'd never flip burgers for a living, but I'm probably gonna end up doing that soon. It won't fix the living situation or pay for my bills, but it's better than nothing.

You're right about the practice part. I'm going out tonight, so hopefully this will help me.

I have 2 questions for you guys dealing with day game.

1. My day game is crap. I go out and walk around looking for women to talk to but I usually find them passing me by walking. Got any advice on stopping a moving target?

2. It also sucks that I can't tell when a woman is under age. I have a sister who is in her early 20's and she still looks 13 to me and so do her perfectly legal and hot friends. I'm 27 but I look like i'm 35. This leads to potentially awkward jail bait situations. At least in a bar she's usually legal. So for me the mall and day game places sucks for pick up. How do I get out of a situation where I just gamed a teen? I might use day game more if I knew how to do this. I just don't want to be walking around being thought of as a creepy old man.

I'd rather use day game because I hate bars and clubs, but these two problems always show up for me. Anyway I'm forcing my self into a day game situation today, so here goes nothing.

Thanks!
Author:  rymer [ Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:11 pm ]
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The balance between cocky and funny is essential in order for the technique to work. This balance is personal, everyone has their own way of doing it. In my case this is what I do, first I think what I want to say, then try to make that funny and then add the cocky part. It works for me. Remember, C&F varies, it depends on the women but more importantly, it depends on the connection you have with them. The more connected you and a women are, the easier it will be to make C&F comments! ;).

Day Game Questions:

I'm not that good at Day Game, but here's my advice to you.

1. I wouldn't try to stop a moving target, there are to many situations for the girl to be moving, and probably those are important. But, If you really want to, you can do this: Walk casually in the direction the girl is coming, and make eye contact with her, if she keeps the eye contact while you are walking towards her, and she towards you, then it's on. When she passes you by, you can walk backwards a bit, and say to her: "Hey!! Long time no see! How have you been?" (Familiarity Opener). After this, you can engage on a conversation about you mistaking her for somebody else.

2. If you say you look like 35, then you should work with your image. Go to the gym, or go jogging everyday, get some new clothes, shave, etc. Try to look your age first. If you gamed a teen and wanted to get out of there, you could just pretend to have recieved a text and make up an excuse to leave. Hope this helps.
Author:  maleaco [ Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:49 pm ]
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Find a few hobbies you LOVE to do and invite people to do them with you casually ^^
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